Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › NVIDIA Cooling › A word about the HeatKiller 680 backplate and a 670 FTW
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

A word about the HeatKiller 680 backplate and a 670 FTW - Page 2

post #11 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyenyde View Post

The little things between the capacitors is what overloads and blows out..
And just to throw in there, in case anyone had this thought about it..yes i used the supplied plastic washers and installed them all correct, and didn't over-tighten everything and squish it all down..

I have a EVGA 670GTX FTW and use a HK 680 water block and backplate.

First the image is not a 670 FTW its a 680GTX and yes I understand you were at work. This is easily spotted as the EVGA 670 FTW doesn't have a full complement of caps across the bottom right side. Where you circled there are no caps.

The backplate comes with insulating spacers that are about 4mm wide with longer (12mm)screws. The two screw holes that you circled have to have spacers too so the pcb is isolated or separated from the backplate. The spacers provide so much space you can look there and see if anything is touching the backplate.

These two screws, as you mentioned, also require plastic washers on the other side as they are secured with nuts. The washers isolate the pcb from the nuts.

If you are not placing spacers in the backplate for these two shorter screws (8mm vs12mm for the rest) you are not isolating the pcb from the backplate in that location.

If the tails of some of the caps or other soldered parts are too long this should be clearly visible as being too long and the plate should not fit flat on the pcb. Or at least not feel correct when fitted.

Also note the the 5mm screw to hold the card's slot plate takes a nut and washer between the pcb and nut.

Please do not interpret my post as an attack or speaking down to you as that is not my intension. Hopefully this helps and you don't short out another card.
post #12 of 16
Thread Starter 
I had stopped using the back plate all together, and yes I was using the supplied plastic washers between the backplate and the card, and all the correct screws (they actually didn't include all of the screws, so I got some more in an envelope from Heatkiller in Germany, which i thought was cool)..so aside from the capacitor pins sticking through the back of the card, the backplate wasn't in direct contact via any of the screw holes.. for some reason on two separate FTW cards it was making contact somewhere in that corner and causing them to short out.. third card all i did was Not use the backplate, and everything worked fine. So this is really just a word of warning to anyone else who wants to use the backplate to just take that extra 3 seconds and inspect that corner of the card/plate.. though really it's just a $30 accessory, which i didn't know beforehand :'(
post #13 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyenyde View Post

, and yes I was using the supplied plastic washers between the backplate and the card,
Quote:

Maybe you just said it wrong but all the screw holes of the backplate have to have the 4mm spacers attached including those two holes that also require a plastic washer for the nuts. If the plastic spacers are not used the backplate will short out on the pcb. If the plastic washer is not used between the nuts used on those two screws the nut will short out the pcb.

And because of the spacers any soldered components with tails so long that they would contact the backplate inspite of the spacers, or passed the spacers, would really standout.

The only thing that makes sense is since that the spacers snap in place they came out in that area. But twice???

Yes the backplate is not required but the HK block is very heavy. The backplate really helps to make the card rigid when installing and using the heavy water block. It also looks much better than no backplate.
post #14 of 16
Does anyone else have a similar problem with the GTX 680 heatkiller backplate on the GTX 670 FTW?

Or is the only instance of the plate frying cards?
post #15 of 16
fried one zotac 670 4gb card myself because i screwed the heatkiller backplate too tight. The solderpoints hit the backplate and shorted it with a loud BANG! I got a new one and this time i used a flashlight and carefully inspected all angles so that the pins at no point made contact with the backplate. Heads up, take your time!
post #16 of 16
Yeah, you need to be sure to use the plastic (nylon?) washer on BOTH SIDES and on EVERY SCREW, which is a bit tedious/hard to keep track of. Also, if you're tightening the backplate on to the point that the screwdriver starts to "skip" when trying to twist it down further, you have it on TOO TIGHT! I would get it to where it is no longer spinning freely and make a good extra 1/4-1/2 of a turn and be done: anything more is unnecessary.

Here's a few pics of assembly:

Everything laid out and ready to go from "awesome" to "bad@ss"



One of my favorite photos, showing how PERFECT the copper machining is on the Heatkiller blocks!



The EVGA GTX670 FTW 2GB having just been taken out of the box and immediately had its stock HSF removed....



....and the stock HSF's replacement!



GPU Stock TIM and then the Bare GPU Die!




The HeatKiller GPUx^3 GTX680 "Hole Edition" Full-Coverage Waterblock installed! (Note: Directions that come with block were originally German and translated to English via software, NOT by a human, so keep this in mind before ordering if it's your first time installing a waterblock)




The HeatKiller GPUx^3 GTX680 Backplate is installed! Truly a beautiful piece of work, solid stainless steel polished to a mirror-finish; the center is raised higher than the rest and there are perfectly-machined holes throughout the top of the block, which allow for a significant amount of airflow under and through the backplate for even-better VRAM cooling!



AND THE MOMENT YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR.....


This is the spacing between the backplate and the PCB, also showing some of the solder traces and whatnot. This spacing is what you should aim for, IMHO.
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930K @ 4.8Ghz Asus Rampage 4 Extreme EVGA GTX670 FTW 2GB  16GB G.Skill Ripjaws-Z @ DDR3-2248 9-10-9-26 1T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 830 256GB SSD WD10EZEX 1TB HDD WD10EALX 1TB HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
WD3200AAKS 320GB HDD LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W Custom MB-Backside VRM-sinks (Copper) DD "Fill-Port Res" + Fill-Port Fitting (Red) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x MCP35X + Heatsinks/80x15mm Fan XSPC EX420 Alphacool NeXXos UT60 240 6x Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
4x Koolance 120x25mm 2600rpm Fans Comp/Rotary Fittings (BP/XSPC/Monsoon) Primoflex Pro LRT - White (1/2x3/4) 3x NZXT RF-FX140LB 1-2krpm 98.3CFM Case Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x Corsair SP120-PE Case Fans Heatkiller GTX680 "Hole Edition" Block + Backplate XSPC Single-Bay Res (Single 5.25 bay) EK Multioption Res X2 - Advanced 150 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Windows 7 Professional 64bit  Dell P2210Hb 21.5" 1920x1080p Viewsonic VA2012WB 20.1" LCD 1680x1050 Dell S2320L 23" 1920x1080p LED-Backlit 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Mechanical (Browns) NZXT HALE90 850W NZXT Switch 810 (White) R.A.T.3 + MX510 
Mouse PadAudioAudioOther
My Desk GRADO RS1i Headphones Grado PS1000 Headphones Bitfenix Hydra Pro Fan Controller 5ch 30W/ch 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Bitfenix Alchemy Individually-Sleeved Extension... NZXT Individually-Sleeved Front Panel Wires (Bl... Phobya Sleeved 1x3pin-to-4x3pin Fan Splitter Sleeved Wires w Paracord myself (no Heatshrink) 
OtherOther
Custom Front and Top Panels w HexxMesh *In Prog... Working on Custom Pedestal Prototype 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core2Duo E8600 Asus Stryker LGA775 HD5870 8GB Crucial DDR2-1066 5-5-5-10 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
2x Seagate 7200.9 320GB x2 Seagate 7200.7 160GB 1x WD Caviar SE16 160GB (OS) x2 Maxtor DiamondMax+ 200GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
3x WD Caviar SE16 80GB LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W LG Blu-Ray Burner 3x Scythe Slipstream 1900rpm 120x25mm Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
2x Delta 120x38mm PWM Fans (2.2-4.8krpm) 2x Delta 92x38mm PWM Fans Misc Assortment of 80/92/120/140 fans Windows 7 Pro x64 
MonitorMonitorMonitorPower
Dell 22" 1680x1050 LG 55" LED-LCD 120hz Television Epson DLP Projector (up to 1920x1200) Enermax 750W PSU 
CaseAudioAudioAudio
Antec SOHO Case (Modified for better cooling) Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum Pioneer VSX-D819S 6.2CH DD/DTS Receiver 2x Pioneer Class-D Amplifiers 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
2x Cerwin Vega VE-12 3-Way Tower Speakers (FR/FL) 2x RTR Series V Model 20 4-Way Tower Speakers (... 2x JBL SoundStage High-Dispersion 3-Way Bookshe... 2x JBL Professional-Series Subwoofers 12"+15" 
AudioOtherOtherOther
MonoPrice 12AWG Copper-Stranded Speaker Cables ... Netgear N900 Wireless Card with 3x Detachable A... 3x Netgear 5-port Managed Switches Hauppage TV Capture Card 
  hide details  
Reply
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930K @ 4.8Ghz Asus Rampage 4 Extreme EVGA GTX670 FTW 2GB  16GB G.Skill Ripjaws-Z @ DDR3-2248 9-10-9-26 1T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 830 256GB SSD WD10EZEX 1TB HDD WD10EALX 1TB HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
WD3200AAKS 320GB HDD LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W Custom MB-Backside VRM-sinks (Copper) DD "Fill-Port Res" + Fill-Port Fitting (Red) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x MCP35X + Heatsinks/80x15mm Fan XSPC EX420 Alphacool NeXXos UT60 240 6x Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
4x Koolance 120x25mm 2600rpm Fans Comp/Rotary Fittings (BP/XSPC/Monsoon) Primoflex Pro LRT - White (1/2x3/4) 3x NZXT RF-FX140LB 1-2krpm 98.3CFM Case Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x Corsair SP120-PE Case Fans Heatkiller GTX680 "Hole Edition" Block + Backplate XSPC Single-Bay Res (Single 5.25 bay) EK Multioption Res X2 - Advanced 150 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Windows 7 Professional 64bit  Dell P2210Hb 21.5" 1920x1080p Viewsonic VA2012WB 20.1" LCD 1680x1050 Dell S2320L 23" 1920x1080p LED-Backlit 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Mechanical (Browns) NZXT HALE90 850W NZXT Switch 810 (White) R.A.T.3 + MX510 
Mouse PadAudioAudioOther
My Desk GRADO RS1i Headphones Grado PS1000 Headphones Bitfenix Hydra Pro Fan Controller 5ch 30W/ch 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Bitfenix Alchemy Individually-Sleeved Extension... NZXT Individually-Sleeved Front Panel Wires (Bl... Phobya Sleeved 1x3pin-to-4x3pin Fan Splitter Sleeved Wires w Paracord myself (no Heatshrink) 
OtherOther
Custom Front and Top Panels w HexxMesh *In Prog... Working on Custom Pedestal Prototype 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core2Duo E8600 Asus Stryker LGA775 HD5870 8GB Crucial DDR2-1066 5-5-5-10 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
2x Seagate 7200.9 320GB x2 Seagate 7200.7 160GB 1x WD Caviar SE16 160GB (OS) x2 Maxtor DiamondMax+ 200GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
3x WD Caviar SE16 80GB LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W LG Blu-Ray Burner 3x Scythe Slipstream 1900rpm 120x25mm Fans 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
2x Delta 120x38mm PWM Fans (2.2-4.8krpm) 2x Delta 92x38mm PWM Fans Misc Assortment of 80/92/120/140 fans Windows 7 Pro x64 
MonitorMonitorMonitorPower
Dell 22" 1680x1050 LG 55" LED-LCD 120hz Television Epson DLP Projector (up to 1920x1200) Enermax 750W PSU 
CaseAudioAudioAudio
Antec SOHO Case (Modified for better cooling) Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum Pioneer VSX-D819S 6.2CH DD/DTS Receiver 2x Pioneer Class-D Amplifiers 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
2x Cerwin Vega VE-12 3-Way Tower Speakers (FR/FL) 2x RTR Series V Model 20 4-Way Tower Speakers (... 2x JBL SoundStage High-Dispersion 3-Way Bookshe... 2x JBL Professional-Series Subwoofers 12"+15" 
AudioOtherOtherOther
MonoPrice 12AWG Copper-Stranded Speaker Cables ... Netgear N900 Wireless Card with 3x Detachable A... 3x Netgear 5-port Managed Switches Hauppage TV Capture Card 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: NVIDIA Cooling
Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › NVIDIA Cooling › A word about the HeatKiller 680 backplate and a 670 FTW