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MSI Says My Overheating 7970 Lightning is Normal!!!

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So some of you may remember that I had a defective 7970 Lightning that I had to RMA. Took about three (3) weeks from the start of the RMA till I received the replacement card.

Immediately upon installation of the replacement card, I notice that the card is running a little hot in benchmarks..... a little too hot.... like over 90C hot!!!!

So, I have been emailing MSI for a week and they finally tell me to call in...... well..... THEY DON'T ANSWER THEIR PHONE NOR DO THEY REPLY TO YOUR VOICEMAILS!!! After about five (5) voicemails with no return calls, I emailed again.

Finally, I get an e-mail from Michael Vo, asking for additional information...well after 5 days of emails...I finally got a hold of him o the phone.

To be blunt... I AM HATING MSI AND THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!

He wanted me to try the card on another rig, which I told him won't work since my girlfriends rig is a A6 APU system in a mATX case with only a 350W PSU. Besides, I explained that this is on a fresh install of Windows 7 Pro and my system is well ventilated.

I am getting temps in the 68-72C range while gaiming on a custome fan profile blasting away from 80-100% fan speed. During benches, I'll get over 90C. Mike from MSI says that this is normal and within the thermal guide for the 7970 Lightning!!! I told him that while it may be within the Thermal LIMIT, it is not normal. He kept arguing and I finally asked him to be honest and tell me what he thought. He thought that these temps are perfectly fine and normal! I finally ended up hanging up on him saying that I was sorely dissappointed and frustrated with MSI's customer service!!

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Intel i5-750
Asus P7P55D Pro
CM Hyper 212+ push/pull
8GB G.Skill ECO RAM 1600 CL7
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB (boot & games drive)
WD Caviar Black 1TB (Programs drive)
WD Green 2TB (Storage drive)
Corsair TX750 PSU

HAF 922 Case with 200mm front intake, 200mm top exhaust, 120mm bottom intake, 2x120mm side intake & 120mm rear exhaust.

I just ran heaven & furmark on stock lightning settings of 1070/1400. Here's the pics of temps and whatnot as well as some other pics of how the card came, kinda dinged up, and my rig, ambient temps and a couple of screen crashes.

Take a look and tell me if these temps are normal! I think not, but according to MSI, these are perfectly normal temps to expect with a 7970 Lightning!!!

BTW, these runs are on stock fan profile.










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Forgot to request some input from other 7970 lightning owners. What are your temps under idle, load, bench & is your cards stock or OC'd.

Also, note the furmark run hit those temps within 30 seconds. I couldn't run OCCT, as that bench will hard crash.
Edited by hpak - 8/10/12 at 9:34pm
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post #3 of 148
Some lightnings run hotter than others. I had one that had temps that would climb and climb and climb until it crashed if it was overclocked slightly. You should put it under water now that the EK blocks are out. Mine are under water @35c full load!
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I ran mine on the stock cooler when i first got it and remember the temps getting really hot. Something like 90°c sounds about what mine was running. I thought it was a bit hot, but I planned on running it on Ln2. My reference 7970 gets no where near that hot, but the lightning does. I've ran it on h2o and temps are in line, but not on the stock cooler. The memory also ran pretty hot. I ran it a few weeks ago on Dice and it was crashing due to the memory over heating.
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Have you tried re-applying thermal paste? I've had several twin frozr cards that had little to no paste positioned off to the corner of the die causing high temps.
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Galaxy told me 98C was normal when I bought my first gaming video card (GTS 250). I never bought a Galaxy card after that.

 

Tell them it's running at 105C and then they might allow you to RMA it.

    
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I had to RMA a 7950 before and man is thier Process slow. Mine also took three weeks from start to finish.

I would try to reapply thermal paste.
    
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I just ran Heaven 3.0 same settings, same stock 7970 lightning clock/fan speeds as you did above, 33° idle & reached 63° max with fan starting at 30% & maxing at 56% in a 26°C (~ 80°F) ambient. I don't use a case so better airflow, but can't be that much better. Overclocked & overvolted I usually run fan at 100%, think the highest I've seen before was under 80°.
Have you pulled off the heatsink to see if it's a mess under there? Manufacturers like to use lots of TIM, maybe the machine double dosed or skipped yours. While it may be in the normal safe range on paper that is hot unless you live in a desert.
    
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Agreed ^^^^^^ clean it up well and reapply with your choose of TIM

as seen here read this post: http://www.overclock.net/t/892583/official-amd-69xx-owners-club/3520_20#post_17532383

this was a ongoing issue for this guy as well, rma the hole nine yards as i recall, same MSI customer service issues as well
 
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intresting... i have a pair of thier 6850s in cfx and never even breach 55C full load.

90C is hot, id expect 90C from a fermi, not an ati card..
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