Ok, I was not the one who came up with the following content in regards to supporting the notion that The War Z ripped off DayZ. A man on Facebook by the name, Robby Naruske Blontrock, wrote the following posts as comments on the Facebook page of War Z in their link redirecting to their story about War Z vs DayZ located on their forums. A News topic was created on OCN about it and is located HERE.
These comments on their Facebook were deleted within a few hours, but I managed to save and put it together last night before going to sleep.
I thought it would be best to avoid cluttering up other threads regarding either game with this discussion and instead just try to contain this topic to this thread. Feel free to discuss these comments, and your thoughts below.
I'd also like to mention, before anyone else does, that the name is not a ripoff of DayZ. The game is by the same minds who created "The War Inc." and so, it's only a natural progression that they take that name and fit it to this game (since it uses the same engine with changes made), hence we arrive at "The War Z."
These comments on their Facebook were deleted within a few hours, but I managed to save and put it together last night before going to sleep.
I thought it would be best to avoid cluttering up other threads regarding either game with this discussion and instead just try to contain this topic to this thread. Feel free to discuss these comments, and your thoughts below.
I'd also like to mention, before anyone else does, that the name is not a ripoff of DayZ. The game is by the same minds who created "The War Inc." and so, it's only a natural progression that they take that name and fit it to this game (since it uses the same engine with changes made), hence we arrive at "The War Z."
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Screenshots of Comments on Facebook (Click to show)Originally Posted by Robby Naruske Blontrock
The War Z is a rip-off of the popular game, DayZ. The War Z developers claim that they were developing long before DayZ started, but this is not true, and here is why. Prepare for a long read.
On the War Z website (www.thewarz.com), on the bottom of the page the following is written:
I tried to find out more about these companies, but could not find anything about them. There is no website for "OP Productions, LLC" or for "Hammerpoint Interactive." Hammerpoint Interactive did not make any other games, besides War Z, which they are working on right now. It seems that these companies do not exist. Especially about OP Productions LLC nothing is written on the internet.
I tried to find out which company (or companies) is responsible for the development of War Z. In a news article by "VG 24/7" they mention the name "Arktos Interactive."
-- Source: http://www.vg247.com/2012/08/01/the-war-z-pulls-in-over-100000-closed-beta-registrations-in-24-hours/#more-281771
This company does have a website and the only title it is responsible for is apparently a free FPS called "The War Inc."
Searching the War Inc. forums I found a thread announcing a game with zombies in it, written by a certain Sergey Titov.
-- Source: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3AumA4gxOJlhcJ%3Aforums.thewarinc.com%2Farchive%2Findex.php/t-9604.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk
Googling Sergey Titov shows that he is responsible for 5 games, one of which is "Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing," which is known as the worst game ever made. Sergey had no active part in producing Big Rigs, though his engine formed the base. Apparently what he does (or did) is find computer programmers in countries in Eastern Europe and then license a game engine to them to make a game for a very small budget (think 15,000 USD). An "interesting concept" which he has been executing for many years now.
-- Sources: http://www.giantbomb.com/sergey-titov/72-896-96/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Rigs:_Over_the_Road_Racing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_Stone
It appears that Sergey always writes in broken English. IT also appears that he is a former employee of Riot Games (League of Legends) and is currently working for Arktos Entertainment and Warmongers Group (responsible for The War Inc.).
More info about Sergey Titov here:
-- Sources: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stitov
http://yourewinner.com/wiki/index.php5?title-Sergey_Titov
Now, enough about Sergey Titov and his past. Here comes the interesting part, in the forum post on War Inc. forums, Titov says the following:
Titov says here that the production studio Hammerpoint Interactive only started conceptualizing "a few weeks ago," which means April or May 2012.
I also found the unedited pres release about War Z's new website, which you can find here: http://pastebin.com/g5HZ4q7L
This is the last line of the press release:
SO that's why nobody can find anything about OP Productions, LLC. They created a completely new company for the game. Another proof that War Z was not in development "for many years," like Titov claims.
Now let's look at the social media accounts of War Z:
Youtube - totally empty. Zero activity, no videos. Created on July 19th of 2012. http://www.youtube.com/user/TheWarZMMO
Twitter - some activity, also created on July 19th of 2012. http://twitter.com/The_War_Z
Facebook - first post on July 18th of 2012. Note - the "started in 2011" is something users can create artificially. this is not the true creation date of the Facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/warzmmo
Domain name - created on May 24th of 2012, registered to Sergey Titov.
tl;dr: Even the executive producer of the game admits several times they only started working on the game as early as May 2012. Tracking the website and social media proves this. War Z tries to thrive on DayZ's success by implementing features and most major suggestions and future features of DayZ, and trying to rush out their product before a standalone DayZ version can be delivered, in the hope that many people waiting for DayZ will buy it.
The War Z is a rip-off of the popular game, DayZ. The War Z developers claim that they were developing long before DayZ started, but this is not true, and here is why. Prepare for a long read.
On the War Z website (www.thewarz.com), on the bottom of the page the following is written:
©2011-2012 OP Productions LLC. Developed by Hammerpoint Interactive.
I tried to find out more about these companies, but could not find anything about them. There is no website for "OP Productions, LLC" or for "Hammerpoint Interactive." Hammerpoint Interactive did not make any other games, besides War Z, which they are working on right now. It seems that these companies do not exist. Especially about OP Productions LLC nothing is written on the internet.
I tried to find out which company (or companies) is responsible for the development of War Z. In a news article by "VG 24/7" they mention the name "Arktos Interactive."
-- Source: http://www.vg247.com/2012/08/01/the-war-z-pulls-in-over-100000-closed-beta-registrations-in-24-hours/#more-281771
This company does have a website and the only title it is responsible for is apparently a free FPS called "The War Inc."
Searching the War Inc. forums I found a thread announcing a game with zombies in it, written by a certain Sergey Titov.
-- Source: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3AumA4gxOJlhcJ%3Aforums.thewarinc.com%2Farchive%2Findex.php/t-9604.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk
Googling Sergey Titov shows that he is responsible for 5 games, one of which is "Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing," which is known as the worst game ever made. Sergey had no active part in producing Big Rigs, though his engine formed the base. Apparently what he does (or did) is find computer programmers in countries in Eastern Europe and then license a game engine to them to make a game for a very small budget (think 15,000 USD). An "interesting concept" which he has been executing for many years now.
-- Sources: http://www.giantbomb.com/sergey-titov/72-896-96/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Rigs:_Over_the_Road_Racing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_Stone
It appears that Sergey always writes in broken English. IT also appears that he is a former employee of Riot Games (League of Legends) and is currently working for Arktos Entertainment and Warmongers Group (responsible for The War Inc.).
More info about Sergey Titov here:
-- Sources: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stitov
http://yourewinner.com/wiki/index.php5?title-Sergey_Titov
Now, enough about Sergey Titov and his past. Here comes the interesting part, in the forum post on War Inc. forums, Titov says the following:
What it means for War Inc. community ? First of all - we'll invite all of our active players to participate in Alpha test. Second - ( looks like game will be solf as pay per play product for like $20 or something ) - you'll get special offer if tyou decide to buy it. And third - if you'll got into game and will have \certain items bought permanently in War Inc ( heroes, certain weapons ) - they will be available as unlocked items in zombie game as well.?
So
- couple weeks ago they sent us video showcasing extra cool idea - huge open world infested with zombies. And they asked us - can be make changes to the engine so it be capable of supporting like 500-1000 players on the same map plus thousands of zombies at same time. We've been talking about what they want to do, discussed ideas and right now they're making kinds proof of concept - first ever persistent world zopmbie survival MMO .
So
- couple weeks ago they sent us video showcasing extra cool idea - huge open world infested with zombies. And they asked us - can be make changes to the engine so it be capable of supporting like 500-1000 players on the same map plus thousands of zombies at same time. We've been talking about what they want to do, discussed ideas and right now they're making kinds proof of concept - first ever persistent world zopmbie survival MMO .Titov says here that the production studio Hammerpoint Interactive only started conceptualizing "a few weeks ago," which means April or May 2012.
I also found the unedited pres release about War Z's new website, which you can find here: http://pastebin.com/g5HZ4q7L
This is the last line of the press release:
Arktos Entertainment will publish The War Z through OP Productions, LLC, a newly created subsidiary.
SO that's why nobody can find anything about OP Productions, LLC. They created a completely new company for the game. Another proof that War Z was not in development "for many years," like Titov claims.
Now let's look at the social media accounts of War Z:
Youtube - totally empty. Zero activity, no videos. Created on July 19th of 2012. http://www.youtube.com/user/TheWarZMMO
Twitter - some activity, also created on July 19th of 2012. http://twitter.com/The_War_Z
Facebook - first post on July 18th of 2012. Note - the "started in 2011" is something users can create artificially. this is not the true creation date of the Facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/warzmmo
Domain name - created on May 24th of 2012, registered to Sergey Titov.
tl;dr: Even the executive producer of the game admits several times they only started working on the game as early as May 2012. Tracking the website and social media proves this. War Z tries to thrive on DayZ's success by implementing features and most major suggestions and future features of DayZ, and trying to rush out their product before a standalone DayZ version can be delivered, in the hope that many people waiting for DayZ will buy it.
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