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Can I Dry Ice/Phase change cool a PC, no blowtorch involved?
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Can I Dry Ice/Phase change cool a PC, no blowtorch involved?
Blow torch!? They sell Phase change units and dry ice, not blow torch needed. To do dry ice, you just need a bucket mounted CPU that you can drop dry ice and water into. To do a phase change unit, you just need to buy one designed for a computer, or a fish tank, like the Haliea ones.

You could even do this, if you have a spare air conditioner.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1264939/final-oc-results-window-air-con-chill-box-build

If you want a world record, though; you probably need something like liquid nitrogen.
 
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post #23 of 31
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Can I Dry Ice/Phase change cool a PC, no blowtorch involved?


You may need a blowtorch for CPUs that has terrible CB or CBB issues smile.gif
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1. Okay. 2. Im an idiot.

I admire your honesty,sir! buttkick.gif
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post #25 of 31
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LN2 is probably about as far as you need to go..Do you have any overclocking skills?You should bone up..-192 will get you some good clocks ..I'm sure smile.gif

This is a good question. Call me pessimistic, but judging by your questions, I'm assuming you don't have much experience with high end overclocking. If I were you, I'd work my way up, do some air or watercooling before diving straight into a LN2 setup... You could very well end up spending a lot of money and losing out on a lot of money because of failed components...

But, if you want to go full bore into this project, more power to you and I wish you luck. It would be pretty sweet to see 9GHz!

Just my 2 cents. smile.gif
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Well, I have OCed before. I will be going into watercooling, than Dice, or phase change. And, I dont think a world record requires LN2, it just keeps the CPU cooler. When CPUs get up to 2.2V, yeah, but at 1.9, I think Dice will cut it.
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post #27 of 31
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Well, I have OCed before. I will be going into watercooling, than Dice, or phase change. And, I dont think a world record requires LN2, it just keeps the CPU cooler. When CPUs get up to 2.2V, yeah, but at 1.9, I think Dice will cut it.


The more you give cold to the CPU the more it scales. It's not only about the cold though you need to get a good batch of
CPUs, good benching RAM, high quality mobo and LN2.
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When CPUs get up to 2.2V, yeah, but at 1.9, I think Dice will cut it.

on AMD?

you're gonna kill lots of hardware. sure hope you got lots of $$$
2.2v on Intel or AMD is a ton of voltage and usually pretty hot, Dice is not gonna work to well
    
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post #29 of 31
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I want to cool my CPU.I want to overclock my CPU.I want to BEAT RECORDS!So, the current record is 8.8 GHZ on a FX 8100?
8.7ghz actually http://hwbot.org/submission/2294034_andreyang_cpu_frequency_fx_8150_8709_mhz You probably won't beat it for a few different reasons, as I will point out below.
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Lets beat it.So, first things first, what CPU?I have a little while, lets ay mid next year at the latest.Should I go with the FX8100?i think not.I betcha the record holder's 8100 was barley stable,
You will need an 8150 or 8120, but most likely 8150. The chip will need to be an early manufacture date (which are getting hard to find now days), as it is apparent that all the later ones do not clock as high. No other BD chips have the potential for 8+ it seems.
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I probobly couldnt push it to 9 GHz.
I doubt you could get it to close to 8.2ghz, and I'm saying that because of the very few amount of chips that have.
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I am thinking piledriver, they will probobly be able to hit that vital extra 200 MHz.
Pure speculation. The current BD can't clock very good, so I wouldn't get your hopes up for a architecture refresh, as they will probably be using the same manufacturing techniques as the current BD chips.
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2nd, board.I am not a fan of Asus, actually, the oppisite.But, those Asus ROG boards look like some extreme overclocking boards.
If you're getting into extreme overclocking, and going for records, you can't let your hardware manufacture bias get in the way. Some boards are just better than others.
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3rd, ram.I think I will use the same timings and Ram as the current record holder, A Data 4 GB.
He had 2gb of corsair. You can't really copy settings like that since lots of things can be different, like IMC capabilities, board capabilities, ram IC capabilities (even between identical chips).
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Last, the most important part, cooling.This is the part were I am on a $600 budget.I think once you are into liquid nitrogen, its more about CPU Stability than about the cooling.
When running high volts on BD chips, stability comes from it being cold. Also, cold stops the high volts from kill the chip. Stability and cold go together.
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Like, you might worry between H100 and NHD14, but sience almost all LN2 things give great cooling, who cares, really.
I'll let you find that out for yourself wink.gif. It would be boring for me to just tell you, given your preconceived notions.
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What is a Rotary phase change/Phase change cooled system?How will it compare to a LN2 system?
It is a system that uses refrigerant liquid/gases to cool the chips via the Carnot thermodynamic cycle. Similar to HVAC equipment, but much colder. Cascades systems typically go to about -120C or so, but there are some that do -140C. They cannot keep up with LN2, they just aren't cold enough.
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