best lossless audio player? [windows]

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9/21/12 at 4:07pm

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I prefer MP3 320 vs flac. Takes up less space and it is nearly as good. Plus it needs to work across my media network. MP3 320 is the best format for that as anything will play it.

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9/21/12 at 5:38pm

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I got all my music converted from FLAC to MP3 320 and currently using itunes.

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9/21/12 at 5:39pm

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MusicBee > Foobar2000

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9/21/12 at 9:06pm

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Originally Posted by Simca

Unfortunately, that's what I mean. It's not as simple as copy pasta for skinning. I've had numerous errors where the skins just didn't skin certain aspects of the player and errored endlessly. It is the most difficult media player to skin hands down. Winamp is easier, Media Monkey is easier, songbird is easier..
I personally use Media Monkey and that is a great player. SongBird I don't like because of the audio quality. It just sounds inferior as odd as that sounds.
Winamp was great and as far as audio quality goes is right next to Media Monkey. I used Winamp for the longest, but gave it up for MediaMonkey. I used the Bento theme for Winamp and now that I'm on Media monkey I use this slick black theme.
To the poster above that was talking about itunes, I think as far as functionality is concerned, itunes is great. It's simple, straight to the point etc...but it doesn't support FLAC and that shuts it down hard. Consider Songbird if you want a very similar player that does play FLAC.

I use dBpoweramp to convert Flac to Alac when I get lossless music online, and then copy and paste the files into iTunes so they can be organized automatically in my music folder from my download folder, which is super awesome and ensures all of my music is in one place. That's a pain to set-up correctly on other players. Apple lossless and flac are virtually identical, but alac is contained in a good, proven container (MP4).

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9/21/12 at 9:09pm

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FOOBAR 2000

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Originally Posted by Segovax

This.

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Originally Posted by DirkDaring

THIS. bar none.

Needs moar this.

THIS.

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Yeah I'm gonna be hated by all prior here and say iTunes. I use Apple Lossless, which I can use on my iPod and phone, unlike FLAC. Plus Foobar can't give you airplay, cloud backup, automatic folder organizing, and playlist management which is easier than iTunes. I've spent years with foobar (yes, years and my skin was kickass), but kept on coming back to iTunes. If you want to listen to lossless music painlessly and not learn how to code or use software that was developed when iTunes still sucked, iTunes is really the best way to go. Plus iTunes 11 is quite a step forward, if you saw the apple iPhone/iPod announcement.

Of course iTunes makes the most sense for you...you own an iPod and an iPhone. It's good that you like it, because you honestly don't have a choice. You either use their proprietary file formats and their software, or you don't use their device.

Personally, I think the Apple/iTunes way of doing things is retarded. Why must my device by sync'd with only one PC? I should be able to drag and drop music onto a portable music player or phone no matter where I am or who's computer I'm using. I haven't used iTunes or owned an iPod in a VERY long time, so maybe they've changed this, I don't know. Either way I have no desire to go back now that I've got a Droid I can just drag FLAC files onto.
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9/21/12 at 9:38pm

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Originally Posted by Face76

I have a massive media library (lots of music and all kinds of other stuff) that has to be shared and easily accessed across multiple platforms by multiple people and guests. To keep things simple, all my personal music (on my PC ATM) is converted from flac to MP3 320, then shared over the network. The same goes for the other media on my server. Having one single format to go across just simplifies things.

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9/21/12 at 9:49pm

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Originally Posted by Lord Xeb

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Originally Posted by Face76

I have a massive media library (lots of music and all kinds of other stuff) that has to be shared and easily accessed across multiple platforms by multiple people and guests. To keep things simple, all my personal music (on my PC ATM) is converted from flac to MP3 320, then shared over the network. The same goes for the other media on my server. Having one single format to go across just simplifies things.

I do the same thing Xeb. I always use 320k CBR mp3. Can I tell a difference between that and FLAC? With the right music, absolutely I can. Is it worth 4x the disc space, when I can't afford to put even more TB in my server? Nope its not. Plus its easier to transfer to my car, I can just copy / paste it into my 32GB flash drive instead of waiting hours and hours for all those to convert, and retag them all.

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9/23/12 at 2:02pm

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Originally Posted by srsparky32

MusicBee > Foobar2000

I'll give it a try before I comment, but I've never heard of MusicBee before.

Okay, so I downloaded it and installed it and the first problem I'm having is that it won't insert my music folder into the program

If a music manager can't even do that then it's use is forfeit. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but it should be working, it's simply not.

As for functionality/preference options? Fantastic. I wish other media players had this level of control and customization, but as for the look of the player and it's current usefulness to me (zero) I'm not gonna stick with it.

Okay, so I realized that I was trying to insert the C drive music library which has no music in it. I needed to use my E drive..so now..it's attempting to insert my music, but the program is having a heart attack trying to do so.

Will re-examine the program and add details later.

All right, so I've gotten my music in the player after several minutes and it's playing well.

I had an issue with it at the beginning because apparently some of my music isn't tagged according to this program even though it's tagged fine in other players.

The skinning is absolutely easy. It already comes installed with several color variations which I find fantastic. You don't need crazy skinning most of the time and just a simple color change is more than enough for many people. Hands down this is the easiest skin for that straight out of the box.

However, if you really want to change the look of it, I'm not sure this program does that.

Resources wise, it uses about 20,000-30,000kb less than MediaMonkey which is fascinating.

It has a very simple WASAPI/ASIO/DIRECT-SOUND set up.

Built in CD-Ripping software. I think it's a good player.

I'm just not sure it's going to take over as my main player. I do like MediaMonkey..
Edited by Simca - 9/23/12 at 2:37pm

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Intel i5 3570k @ 4.5GHz	Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H	NVIDIA EVGA GTX 670FTW	8GB G.Skill Sniper
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Cooling
Samsung 830	OCZ Vertex 2	Samsung Spinpoint F3	Noctua NH-D14
OS	Monitor	Monitor	Keyboard
Microsoft Windows 8 Professional	Dell Ultrasharp u2410	Samsung 2333SW	Logitech G15
Power	Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad
Corsair AX850	CoolerMaster HAF 932 Advanced	Logitech G300	Razer Goliathus Extended Speed Edition
Audio	Audio	Audio	Audio
Denon AVR-1912	Objective DAC+Objective 2 Amp	Infinity Primus P153 by Harmon Kardon	Bowers & Wilkins 685
Audio	Audio	Audio	Other
HiFiMAN HE-500	Shure SE535 Limited Edition	Audio Technica AD700	NZXT Sleeved 2M LED Strip
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Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition	Asus M4A79T Deluxe	NVIDIA GTX 670 FTW	OCZ Platinum 4GB 1600 DDR3
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	Monitor
OCZ Vertex 2 90GB & Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Scythe MUGEN-2	Microsoft Windows 8 Professional	Dell UltraSharp u2410 & Samsung 2333SW
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
Logitech G15	OCZ GameXStream 700w	HAF 932 Advanced	Logitech G300
Audio	Audio	Audio	Audio
Denon AVR-1912	Harman Kardon Infinity Primus P153	HIFIMAN HE-400	Vsonic GR07
Audio	Audio	Audio	Audio
Shure SE-535 Limited Edition	Beyerdynamic DT880	ODAC/Objective 2 Amplfiier	Audio Technica AD700
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Intel i5 3570k @ 4.5GHz	Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H	NVIDIA EVGA GTX 670FTW	8GB G.Skill Sniper
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Cooling
Samsung 830	OCZ Vertex 2	Samsung Spinpoint F3	Noctua NH-D14
OS	Monitor	Monitor	Keyboard
Microsoft Windows 8 Professional	Dell Ultrasharp u2410	Samsung 2333SW	Logitech G15
Power	Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad
Corsair AX850	CoolerMaster HAF 932 Advanced	Logitech G300	Razer Goliathus Extended Speed Edition
Audio	Audio	Audio	Audio
Denon AVR-1912	Objective DAC+Objective 2 Amp	Infinity Primus P153 by Harmon Kardon	Bowers & Wilkins 685
Audio	Audio	Audio	Other
HiFiMAN HE-500	Shure SE535 Limited Edition	Audio Technica AD700	NZXT Sleeved 2M LED Strip
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Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition	Asus M4A79T Deluxe	NVIDIA GTX 670 FTW	OCZ Platinum 4GB 1600 DDR3
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	Monitor
OCZ Vertex 2 90GB & Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	Scythe MUGEN-2	Microsoft Windows 8 Professional	Dell UltraSharp u2410 & Samsung 2333SW
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
Logitech G15	OCZ GameXStream 700w	HAF 932 Advanced	Logitech G300
Audio	Audio	Audio	Audio
Denon AVR-1912	Harman Kardon Infinity Primus P153	HIFIMAN HE-400	Vsonic GR07
Audio	Audio	Audio	Audio
Shure SE-535 Limited Edition	Beyerdynamic DT880	ODAC/Objective 2 Amplfiier	Audio Technica AD700
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9/23/12 at 9:55pm

Lord Xeb
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MusicBee cannot handle my media library. Crashes on load XD

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	Graphics
3770k @ 4.5 1.312 load	z77 Sabertooth	GTX 670 FTW 1254/1700	Galaxy GTX 670 1254/1700 1.212
RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Patriot Viper Xtreme D2 1600	RAID 5 (3x750GB)	2TB Baraccuda	Samsung 830 128GB
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
1TB Caviar Green	<.< DVD drive	H100	WIndows 8 Pro 64 bit
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Acer G235H	Logitech thing	Seasonic X 760W	CM690 II Adv.
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio	Audio
Logitech G400	Belkin	AKG A701	JDS Labs Objective 2
Audio
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Core i5 750 @ Stock	ASUS P7P55d-E Pro	GTX 550 Ti SLI	8GB (4x2GB) G.Skill DDR3 1600
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	OS
Samsung 830 128GB	3x1TB RAID 5	Some DVD drive	7 Pro X64
Monitor	Power	Case	Mouse
Some 17"	TX 750	HAF 922	G500
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C2D T7800 @ 2.6GHz	Apple mobo w/ GM-965 chipset	8600M GT 256MB GDDR3 :/	4GB 667
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Crucial M4 64GB SSD	SuperDrive	Stock	OS X 10.8.2
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Mouse
Ubuntu 12.04	1920x1200	Built-in	Trackpad
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RAM	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Patriot Viper Xtreme D2 1600	RAID 5 (3x750GB)	2TB Baraccuda	Samsung 830 128GB
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
1TB Caviar Green	<.< DVD drive	H100	WIndows 8 Pro 64 bit
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
Acer G235H	Logitech thing	Seasonic X 760W	CM690 II Adv.
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio	Audio
Logitech G400	Belkin	AKG A701	JDS Labs Objective 2
Audio
X-Fi Champion
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Core i5 750 @ Stock	ASUS P7P55d-E Pro	GTX 550 Ti SLI	8GB (4x2GB) G.Skill DDR3 1600
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Samsung 830 128GB	3x1TB RAID 5	Some DVD drive	7 Pro X64
Monitor	Power	Case	Mouse
Some 17"	TX 750	HAF 922	G500
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C2D T7800 @ 2.6GHz	Apple mobo w/ GM-965 chipset	8600M GT 256MB GDDR3 :/	4GB 667
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
Crucial M4 64GB SSD	SuperDrive	Stock	OS X 10.8.2
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Mouse
Ubuntu 12.04	1920x1200	Built-in	Trackpad
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Built-in
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9/23/12 at 10:34pm

srsparky32
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Myself, and Contagion, use MusicBee for our FLAC library. Any problems with it are not with the program, but with the user.

Anyway, Xeb converts his FLAC stuff into a worse audio format so any opinions he has are null
Edited by srsparky32 - 9/23/12 at 10:40pm

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel Core i7 3770K @4.8Ghz 1.4v	Gigabyte Z77X-UP5-TH	MSI TF3 7950 @1200 [MAIN]/EVGA Sig+ 680 [DEAD]	16GB (4x4GB) Mushkin Blackline Ridgebacks 1866 ...
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
128GB Crucial M4	Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200.14	2TB Western Digital Red	1TB Western Digital Caviar Green
Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
ASUS DVD R/RW SATA x24	EK Supremacy Acetal+Nickel	Swiftech MCP35X	Swiftech MCRes
Cooling	Cooling	OS	Monitor
Black Ice GT240	2x 1850rpm Scythe Gentle Typhoons	Windows 8 Pro	Dell S2740 27 Inch IPS
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
Das Keyboard	NZXT Hale90 1000W	Antec P280	Steelseries Sensei
Mouse Pad	Audio	Other
Steelseries QCK Mini	Fiio E9 to Asus Xonar DX (headphone amp AND DAC)	Sennheiser HD598
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Intel Core i7 3770K @ 5GHz 1.43V	Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 TB	MSI Twinfrozr III 7870	2x4GB Samsung Wonder Ram
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128GB Crucial M4	1TB Caviar Blue, 640GB Caviar Blue	2x2TB Western Digital Reds coming	Prolimatech Megahalems w/ 2x San Ace H1011's pu...
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 8 Pro	32 inch Toshiba LCD, 24 inch Dell ST2412L	Coolermaster Quickfire Rapid	Antec Truepower New 750W
Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Antec P280	Razer Deathadder 1800dpi	frankenstein!	just hdmi audio to the tv for now
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Intel Core i7-990x @4.5ghz 24/7	Asus Rampage III Extreme	ATI Radeon HD6950 Unlocked	Mushkin Blacklines 3x4GB @ 2008MHz 9-11-9-28 1T
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
128GB Crucial M4 and 2x1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3...	ASUS DVD R/RW SATA x24	Corsair H80	Windows 7 Ultimate
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
LG Flatron 22 Inch 1920x1080	Das Keyboard	Antec Truepower New 750W	Corsair Carbide Series 500R (White)
Mouse	Audio	Audio
Cyborg R.A.T 7 5600DPI	Asus Xonar DX	Sennheiser HD595
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Intel Core i7 3770K @4.8Ghz 1.4v	Gigabyte Z77X-UP5-TH	MSI TF3 7950 @1200 [MAIN]/EVGA Sig+ 680 [DEAD]	16GB (4x4GB) Mushkin Blackline Ridgebacks 1866 ...
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
128GB Crucial M4	Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200.14	2TB Western Digital Red	1TB Western Digital Caviar Green
Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
ASUS DVD R/RW SATA x24	EK Supremacy Acetal+Nickel	Swiftech MCP35X	Swiftech MCRes
Cooling	Cooling	OS	Monitor
Black Ice GT240	2x 1850rpm Scythe Gentle Typhoons	Windows 8 Pro	Dell S2740 27 Inch IPS
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
Das Keyboard	NZXT Hale90 1000W	Antec P280	Steelseries Sensei
Mouse Pad	Audio	Other
Steelseries QCK Mini	Fiio E9 to Asus Xonar DX (headphone amp AND DAC)	Sennheiser HD598
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Intel Core i7 3770K @ 5GHz 1.43V	Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 TB	MSI Twinfrozr III 7870	2x4GB Samsung Wonder Ram
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Cooling
128GB Crucial M4	1TB Caviar Blue, 640GB Caviar Blue	2x2TB Western Digital Reds coming	Prolimatech Megahalems w/ 2x San Ace H1011's pu...
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 8 Pro	32 inch Toshiba LCD, 24 inch Dell ST2412L	Coolermaster Quickfire Rapid	Antec Truepower New 750W
Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Antec P280	Razer Deathadder 1800dpi	frankenstein!	just hdmi audio to the tv for now
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Intel Core i7-990x @4.5ghz 24/7	Asus Rampage III Extreme	ATI Radeon HD6950 Unlocked	Mushkin Blacklines 3x4GB @ 2008MHz 9-11-9-28 1T
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
128GB Crucial M4 and 2x1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3...	ASUS DVD R/RW SATA x24	Corsair H80	Windows 7 Ultimate
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
LG Flatron 22 Inch 1920x1080	Das Keyboard	Antec Truepower New 750W	Corsair Carbide Series 500R (White)
Mouse	Audio	Audio
Cyborg R.A.T 7 5600DPI	Asus Xonar DX	Sennheiser HD595
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