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Hmmn. Just last night I started an advance RMA for a 1TB Black I bought a few years ago. It's been making a noticable "thunking" noise for the past week even when nothing is accessing it; I can feel said thunk by putting a finger on the drive; it's a considerable thunk, much more than just regular vibration.

They just provided tracking for the drive they're sending me and the model is WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0. eh-smiley.gif I'll report back when I get the new drive in.

EDIT: What are your sources for saying 00Y9A0 is a bad batch?
Edited by stn0092 - 8/22/12 at 7:42pm
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If you type "00Y9A0 bad batch" in Google, you can only see negative things about the drive, there are several topics about that.
However, nothing official has been said about the drive.
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How big are these "batches"?

When I googled this, the top 4 results were from OCN within the last few days (three from this thread),, but all the other references I saw were from May 2011. I found one other reference to this batch from July 2010.

Is this from "New, old stock" being sold?
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You silly boys buying "blacks" when my 3 year old F3's (tested 3 days ago) are faster than your "new" wd "zomg" blacks:

And these drives are about full (were same speed when empty).

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Quote:
Originally Posted by hatlesschimp View Post







Here is my WD2002FAEX results. (western digital 2tb hdd - caviar black)

I'm having problems at start up with it disapearing then coming back randomly.

So annoying!

Do these test results look ok?



On start up i get


"A disk read error"

"Press ctrl + alt + del"


i restart and sometimes it loads some times it doesnt. Russian roulette!
UDMA CRC errors - could be a bad cable, or plugged in poorly. (check if it's loose) If not that, it's either the port or one of the controllers. (Your motherboard has one, and also the drive.) Try swapping ports and SATA cables, then see if it stops going up.
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Hmmn. Just last night I started an advance RMA for a 1TB Black I bought a few years ago. It's been making a noticable "thunking" noise for the past week even when nothing is accessing it; I can feel said thunk by putting a finger on the drive; it's a considerable thunk, much more than just regular vibration.

They just provided tracking for the drive they're sending me and the model is WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0. eh-smiley.gif I'll report back when I get the new drive in.

EDIT: What are your sources for saying 00Y9A0 is a bad batch?
00Y9A0 is a firmware version. They put out new firmware when they need to (platter counts/densities change, etc.); aside from that, it won't change. They might make hundreds of batches, with tens of thousands of drives each, and they'll all be 00Y9A0

What kind of thunking noise was it? I had a Raptor that started making odd noises after about 4 years... and it lasted another 5.5 after that biggrin.gif I figured maybe it was reading and rewriting tracks to keep itself in good condition.


Anyone that wants a more quiet drive, apparently WD has heard your complaints... check this thread out:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1297633/wd10ezex-review-wd-blue-1tb-single-platter-drive/0_100

The new 1TB Blues (WD10EZEX) are both fast and quiet.
     
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How big are these "batches"?
I found one other reference to this batch from July 2010.
Is this from "New, old stock" being sold?
My drive is manufactured in July 2012, so definitely not an old drive.

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You silly boys buying "blacks" when my 3 year old F3's (tested 3 days ago) are faster than your "new" wd "zomg" blacks
I only bought the drive because it had five year warranty and it was supposed to be reliable. If I need speed, I'll just use my Crucial M4 SSD. I had two Spinpoint F1s before the Caviar Black.

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00Y9A0 is a firmware version. They put out new firmware when they need to (platter counts/densities change, etc.); aside from that, it won't change. They might make hundreds of batches, with tens of thousands of drives each, and they'll all be 00Y9A0

I was pretty sure that 00Y9A0 was the specific batch number for the drive called WD1002FAEX.
When looking at Intel's Rapid Storage Technology tool, it also seems to reveal the previously mentioned theory, also showing that the firmware version for the drive is 05.01D05.


http://www.smarthdd.com/en/database/WDC-WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0/index.htm
This is a page that suggests that the batch number 00Y9A0 apparently has had two different firmwares - 01.01V01 and 05.01D05.

I am pretty sure at this point that drives with 01.01V01 were faulty and were in SATA II by default and needed WD's tool to enable SATA III.

Thus most of the newer drives from this batch come with the newer firmware, which apparently has fixed that issue.
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UDMA CRC errors - could be a bad cable, or plugged in poorly. (check if it's loose) If not that, it's either the port or one of the controllers. (Your motherboard has one, and also the drive.) Try swapping ports and SATA cables, then see if it stops going up.

So when you look at that chart what are you really looking for? Its got current worst, threshold and data. I would assume that if current exceeds the threshold value it would be bad, but the threshold on almost all of them is 0. And why is almost everything 200?
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It appears you're correct - although I suspect the batch has more to do with the firmware on the drive and location of manufacture rather than when it was manufactured. After all, how could two drives 2 years apart have the same batch number? tongue.gif

When I say a drive had a bad batch, I mean that all the drives produced for a day were bad. Perhaps the motors or some other part were substandard, and a few thousand drives went out that'll perish early. The batch number listed there is in no way relevant to tracking that. (I don't know there's any way to track that, except maybe through purchase dates - but most reviews don't mention those.)
     
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Got my drive from WD today; WD1002FAEX-00Y9A0 as expected. Manufacture date of August 9th, 2012; SMART looks okay. No noises coming from it besides the normal stuff. I'll be returning my old one to WD on Monday.

Any reason I shouldn't run Anvil's endurance test on it for the weekend? If it's going to give me problems soon, may as well make it happen.
Edited by stn0092 - 8/24/12 at 9:17pm
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So when you look at that chart what are you really looking for? Its got current worst, threshold and data. I would assume that if current exceeds the threshold value it would be bad, but the threshold on almost all of them is 0. And why is almost everything 200?
The Data column - all the other ones don't mean much. Some are percentages... some are percentages from 0 to 200... some are percentages from 0 to 255... rolleyes.gif Only the data column means something concrete.
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Any reason I shouldn't run Anvil's endurance test on it for the weekend? If it's going to give me problems soon, may as well make it happen.
I always burn in my drives just to see if I can notice anything odd. I usually do it with the side panel removed from my case, so that I can listen for odd clunks or other noises.
     
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Hitachi 2TB - HDS723020BLA64 Crucial M500 960GB - CT960M500SSD1 WD 4TB Black - WD4001FAEX WD 4TB Black - WD4001FAEX 
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Seagate 2TB - ST2000DM001 WD 640GB Black - WD6401AALS Seagate 6TB - ST6000DM001 Micron M500 - MTFDDAK480MAV 
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Pioneer DVR-115DBK Samsung SH-S243D/BEBE LG GH22NS90 Lite-On EBAU108 External DVD 
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Noctua NH-D15 Fractal Design 140mm Fan - FD-FAN-140 Fractal Design 120mm Fan - FD-FAN-120 Windows 7 
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Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Samsung 2343BWX 23" (2048x1152) BenQ GW2765HT 27" IPS LCD Monitor (2560x1440) Genius Keyboard KB-G235 PA 
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Seasonic Platinum 1000w PSU - SS-1000XP Fractal Design Define R5 Steelseries Rival 6500 dcpi Mousepad + Desk 
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Onboard Realtek® ALC 892 Cyber Acoustics CA-2992 2.0 Speakers Razer Krait 1600 DPI nGear G-C1601 Card Reader 
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Pisen Card Reader Gigabyte M7 Thor 
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VIA Eden C7 1200mhz Jetway J7F4K1G2ES-LF VIA Onboard 512MB PC2-4200 
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A-Data FlashDrive None Fanless Linux 
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Headless None 65w Power Brick Antec ISK300-65 
MouseAudio
None Onboard VIA 
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Barton XP-M 2400+ FJQ4C Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe 256MB BFG 7800GS OC 2x512MB Samsung PC3200 
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Raptor 74GB/Seagate 120GB Windows 2000 Pro 60hz 17" CRT Brandless PS2 Keyboard 
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Antec Neo HE 550w Logitech G5 
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