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Originally Posted by the_milk_man View Post

Is't that in space? Where there is no atmosphere, resistance or gravity? I am under the impression that we are attempting mach 6 in our upper atmosphere because a scramjet can't work in space(at the moment). I'm not attacking your post, just trying to get some clarification.


yes that is in space.. however to break the earths gravity I believe it is mach 9 or 10. I'll look and let you know


Looks like it reaches close to 14000 MPH before it hits space.. it has to go 17500 to keep orbiting the earth.. so around mach 9 or 10 in the atmosphere.. Thats pretty freaking fast.
 
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post #12 of 28
Well technically you can't do Mach anything in space. Mach 1 is the speed of sound in the local medium, in space sound does not travel - hence "Mach" is not applicable.

Mach 1 isn't a absolute speed either, it varies depending on the medium and pressure. For example Mach 1 in water is 1497 m/s, in air at sea level (15°C) it is 340m/s, as you get higher the speed of sound decreases (less dense medium).
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post #13 of 28
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Originally Posted by Darkpriest667 View Post

yes that is in space.. however to break the earths gravity I believe it is mach 9 or 10. I'll look and let you know
Looks like it reaches close to 14000 MPH before it hits space.. it has to go 17500 to keep orbiting the earth.. so around mach 9 or 10 in the atmosphere.. Thats pretty freaking fast.

The difference is the shuttle isn't/wasn't a air breathing engine, scram and ramjets are.

The biggest issue with going those speeds is temperature (think of the shuttle on reentry) and actually burning the fuel quick enough before its expelled out the exhaust.
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post #14 of 28
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Originally Posted by mcole254 View Post

The difference is the shuttle isn't/wasn't a air breathing engine, scram and ramjets are.
The biggest issue with going those speeds is temperature (think of the shuttle on reentry) and actually burning the fuel quick enough before its expelled out the exhaust.


For that I would point you to the SR 71 which uses a hybrid engine. Which is a turboengine inside a ramjet... BTW its cruising speed at altitude is mach 3.2... that its CRUISING speed.. Its long been known that the military and thusly the intelligence agencies (mainly the CIA) have denied its ability to even reach its cruising speed always just saying its speed was "mach 3+" I am pretty sure that it can hit mach 5 in atmosphere and it was the first jet that we could truly say was a spaceship. (its also documented that the cabin was suited for space travel)

Whitney J58 engine <--- that engine is from 1963. Almost 50 years ago. Im pretty sure we can outdo that by a factor of 5 easily.


As for the other guy I know that mach isn't an achievable sped in space. It depends on barometric pressure among other things. I was just giving a laymen's term so everyone could kind of grasp just how fast the shuttle travels.
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Originally Posted by mongoloid View Post

Bring on the scramjet powered craft. Automate them. Skynet becomes a reality.

Well... more like Black Ops 2 to be honest. :/ Oh well. thumb.gif We'll just make sure to keep our Joint Strike Fighter at hand when needed. wink.gif
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if china was testing something like this the media would go all over "china developing mach 6 cruisemissile to bomb new york!"
 
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post #17 of 28
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Here is the thing. We've been testing scramjets out of public eye for over 20 years.. Mostly in the upper stratosphere and in space... We've already flown faster than mach 6 several times.
Perhaps you kiddies are forgetting that little 1970 spaceship we just retired the space shuttle.. Mach 12.. In general, the Space Shuttle top speed is always around 17,500 miles per hour or 5 miles per second.


wut?

the space shuttle was nothing without the HUGE bloody boosters strapped to its sides,this is nothing like that
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Well, it crashed... frown.gif
     
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Well, it crashed... frown.gif

I'll update original post with this:

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/15/air-force-hypersonic-test-fails/?hpt=hp_t1
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wut?
the space shuttle was nothing without the HUGE bloody boosters strapped to its sides,this is nothing like that

the scramjet and ramjet I was talking to was the SR-71 engines.
 
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