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post #11 of 21
you could get an a4 llano for just browsing the web. and make sure you get dual channel 1600mhz+ ram. 4gb would be plenty. as for a psu, i would get a good 350-450W. and the motherboard you could get a cheap a55 from asus or gigabyte.
post #12 of 21
well the thing is, you really have three choices


AMD APU- Decent Single and Multicore Prefomance
AMD FX- Excellent Price/Pref, but need a dedicated card
Intel I3- low amount of cores and locked so no OC'ing

actually, now that i think about it

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128529R&Tpk=am3%2b
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103996

might serve you better, you don't need the cores NOW, but later down the road they might come in handy
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post #13 of 21
You want an APU over an cheap Intel system or other AMD processor. Reason being: gpu acceleration can help a bit on web-surfing & whatnot. And APU integrated graphics counts for that.

2x4gb 1866mhz RAM - NZ$88 (prices include taxes but not shipping)
http://www.alphacity.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=117_312_120&products_id=108581
Problem here, as 1866 gives a nice boost to APUs, but the NZ retailers didn't seem to have a 2x2gb kit. You can go down to 1600mhz 2x2gb if you want to save a little money. It is an internet computer, after all.

a8-3870k (NZ$165) or a6-3670k (NZ$147) (tri-core vs. quad-core/little better graphics)
http://www.alphacity.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67_383_268&products_id=97878
or
http://www.alphacity.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67_383_268&products_id=97877

Asrock A55 FM1 (For VGA or DVI connection - NZ$79) or Asrock A75 FM1 (For VGA or HDMI connection+USB 3.0 & SATA3 - NZ$95)
http://www.alphacity.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=76_79&products_id=109839
or
http://www.alphacity.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=76_79&products_id=95455

Comes to NZ$314 -348


An Intel integrated graphics system = $263. Bigger price difference than expected (compared to the U.S). Technically the GPU is optional too, as it only adds gpu acceleration performance to equalize with the APU and is not necessary. Without GPU, the Intel system = NZ$200.
(pentium g630+Asrock h61+2x2gb Corsair 1333mhz RAM)

http://www.alphacity.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67_384_72&products_id=108519
http://www.alphacity.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=76_665&products_id=102914
http://www.alphacity.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=131_583&products_id=93956

I expected to recommend an a6, but a pentium g-series + discrete GPU is actually significantly cheaper, and thus better.
    
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post #14 of 21
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I'll have a look into all the suggested options. But remember there is no OCing haha nor gaming of any kinda.
post #15 of 21
What do you call cheap? Under $150 USD....

RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148541 (or the brand you like.... still should be around $25 or less for 2x2gb or 4gb stick)
CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103886 (prices go up and down. look for an sale when you go shopping. chance to unlock to an quad if you'll need it)
MB kinda hard finding one to recommend in cheap/bargain alley http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007625%204025&IsNodeId=1&name=%2425%20-%20%2450

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131795R (open box. so I cheated a little rolleyes.gif)

The integrated graphics on the MB might be enough for her needs but I would just go APU to knock that issue away. From a web browsing point-of-view (Facebook games, flash and etc)

CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106002 (on sale, but I kinda like making prices look cheaper after promo)
MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131813R (open box.... I like'em)
RAM get dual channel running at least 1600 in my book. depends on where you shop at because you can get 4-8gb kits from $20-40)


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103888

Don't you dare give her a that! LOL. I know you maybe want to go cheap on certain stuff but getting at least a decent budget CPU. That will always make it run better, even though she probably doesn't need it right now.
post #16 of 21
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Cheers guys.

If you can, use this site: www.pricespy.co.nz

Its what I use to build computers as you can search products by price and it finds the cheapest shop.

I did a quick search and pieced together these two:

What I was looking at before you guys told me about APU's lol
Athlon II x2 260 = $90.10
Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P = $87.73
Kingston ValueRam DDR3 1333 2x2gb = $40 (she wont be able to use it all since she has XP 32bit but its so cheap)
Cooler Master Elite Power 500W = $80

Total: $300 ish.

What I pieced together using APU's
AMD A4 x 2 3400 2.7Ghz = $82.53
Gigabyte A55M-DS2 = $91.20
Kingston ValueRam DD3 1333 2x2gb = $40
Cooler Master Elite Power 500W = $80

Total: $300 ish.

Here in NZD the A8 is $170 which as you can see is a lot more than the A4. Is it worth it?

Please remember we are talking about a above middle aged lady here, literally its just internet stuff, no OCing (lol), no gaming etc.
post #17 of 21
The A4 would be more than sufficient.
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post #18 of 21
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Hi All

Ok here's the barebones build I have put together:

picture.php?albumid=2772&pictureid=67926

Does it look all sweet, I never used Kingston Valueram before as personally I go for higher end stuff, its so cheap that I'm a bit worried about it?

Also have a few questions:

- APU's do they go together just like normal CPU's? I've never worked with them before but I assume they install into the mother board like normal?
- Do I need to know anything different setup wise regarding APU's? I assume the motherboard will have a DVI output or something that the APU runs through?
- She will be using Windows XP, is there any issues with this older OS and the new APU's?
- How do the Cooler Master Elite PSU's stack up, surely its alot better than the crappy HP OEM one in her case? I know that the high end ones are mint (I use a 1200W) but don't know how good the low end Cooler Master PSU's are?

Any other things I should know?

Cheers for all your help, especially for introducing me to the APU line. Question, how well do the high end ones stack up compared to mid to low end graphics cards? I build a lot of "Budget Gaming" machines for friends, usually I pair them with something like a PII 955 (which are cheap here now) with like a 5770 or something. Would APU's be another route here?
Edited by Stilldawn - 8/15/12 at 2:41pm
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Just waiting on confirmation to flick the order through lol.
post #20 of 21
its a soild build apu's have no problem running on XP your good to go
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