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I really wish people would stop paying the rediculous money there asking , for products which cant even be utilised given the games we actually have. Then once the games catch up the new gpus will of halved in price. Why do people do this, what was wrong with gtx480s and 6970s etc........? They are an absolute bargain now too. Nvidia and ati are both skimming maximum profit and only being encouraged to rip us off
    
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I really wish people would stop paying the rediculous money there asking , for products which cant even be utilised given the games we actually have. Then once the games catch up the new gpus will of halved in price. Why do people do this, what was wrong with gtx480s and 6970s etc........? They are an absolute bargain now too. Nvidia and ati are both skimming maximum profit and only being encouraged to rip us off

There are plenty of games that need this horsepower when you start increasing:
Resolution
AA
AF
Ambient Occlusion
Texture Filtering Quality
etc

You can also tweak many games to increase view distance and other settings that will bring your 480 to single digit numbers with ease. Not everyone just sets max game settings and doesn't force higher settings in the drivers. If you are getting by with your 480, then great, I would be hitting myself hard. I upgraded from a 580 and felt it was worth it, after resell it was $200.
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post #23 of 35
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This is why there is no GK110, yet.
Recently TSMC went from charging Nvidia only for working chips to charging per wafer start. I'm sure that margins on big, complex, low yielding chips plummeted.

awesome. next time I do construction, I am charging them for remodeling the whole house but only properly remodeling half the rooms.

thats absolutely retarded. if they dont make money off of messed up chips, it offers incentive for them to be more efficient. if they can charge for junk chips, whats to keep them from half-assing the wafers for a quick buck? i dont see this going down. and if it does, shame shame.
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post #24 of 35
GK104 is being used for the Tesla K10 (2 gpus), GTX 690 (2 gpus), GTX 680, GTX 670 and the 660Ti. It doesn't seem to be doing all that badly right now
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post #25 of 35
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Get ready to bend over for GK110 people.
For real. I'm going to guess 600 and I honestly think that's being conservative.

if they even bother releasing it

nVidia doesn't really have to do anything unless AMD can surprise us with a new part that retakes the crown, and any rumors of such a part would suggest only something minor to where GK110 could easily counter that, meaning I don't think $600 is merely conservative, I think its pretty wishful thinking.

The first major milestone will be getting GK110 in a consumer video card at all, worrying about price will have to go on the back-burner for now.

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I really wish people would stop paying the rediculous money there asking , for products which cant even be utilised given the games we actually have. Then once the games catch up the new gpus will of halved in price. Why do people do this, what was wrong with gtx480s and 6970s etc........? They are an absolute bargain now too. Nvidia and ati are both skimming maximum profit and only being encouraged to rip us off

on the contrary, we need more people to spend more money on discrete GPUs...or would you rather the Radeon/GeForce brands die off and have us be stuck with iGPUs?
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post #26 of 35
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if they even bother releasing it
nVidia doesn't really have to do anything unless AMD can surprise us with a new part that retakes the crown, and any rumors of such a part would suggest only something minor to where GK110 could easily counter that, meaning I don't think $600 is merely conservative, I think its pretty wishful thinking.
The first major milestone will be getting GK110 in a consumer video card at all, worrying about price will have to go on the back-burner for now.
on the contrary, we need more people to spend more money on discrete GPUs...or would you rather the Radeon/GeForce brands die off and have us be stuck with iGPUs?

I thought HD 7970 GHZ edition already took the crown from GTX 680? :O
     
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post #27 of 35
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I thought HD 7970 GHZ edition already took the crown from GTX 680? :O
Being 2-3% ahead is not that big of a deal.
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If terrorists wanted to really screw with the general population they'd bomb TSMC sites. :O It's like we have all of our eggs in one basket.


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Doesn't sound too good in terms of prices falling. Only Nvidia knows what the situation really is with yields, and there's no knowing if AMD is in the same boat. By profits it sure doesn't look like either company is making a dime in gaming graphics.
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post #30 of 35
a GK110 GPU for gaming cards is going to be probably $800+ at the start. Probably start out like the 680 with no ROP's or shaders disabled so it'll probably be a 780 series GPU. Also, because of the size and heat concerns, there most likely won't be a 790 becuase it'd probably be a 4-5slot reuqired cooler. I'm surprised how much in stock the 680's and 670's there are right now. Newegg almost has all the reference cards in stock, except for some non-reference cards, I'm considering getting one on black friday if its on sale (670-680).
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