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Originally Posted by GrizzleBoy View Post

Bullcrap article?
The app store is optional for both devs AND consumers.
"forcing" people to re-code from the ground up?
No.
If you want to put an app on the app store it has to conform to certain standards.
Its literally that simple.
Good god why cant people stop with the "sky is falling" trash already?
Also, talking about Microsoft "DRM laden" store while thinking its "awesome" that apps will be on a DRM platform called Steam.
Where are all the sane people.

Before you start sounding the whole "conspiracy theorist" horn, remember that we're already seeing a trend towards markets like what Microsoft is attempting to do on PC. Steam is it for PC games, Google Play for Android devices, The App Store for Apple products, etc. The trend towards software marketplaces is taking hold very quickly, and if I had to guess, I'd say it will be the norm before too much longer. No more will software be bought at B&M stores or online retail outlets.ALL OF YOUR SOFTWARE (including your OS) will be linked to online marketplaces. DRM will be enforced through your account access.

If anyone is insane, it's you for not noticing current trends in the market. It's happening, and it's happening very quickly. What is optional today may be the only option a few years from now. Don't believe me? Think about when Steam began and how many games you can only get on Steam today. Now does it make sense?
Edited by Mad Pistol - 8/15/12 at 1:03pm
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Ok, so microsoft gets greedy, and gamers switch to linux (which is more open source and anti-locked down than MS will ever be)
....is this an issue?

That's not an issue, but games supporting linux is still an issue.
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Well, forcing apps to run through the Windows App Store is sensible for the ARM based devices, since that uses vastly different coding language from x86 devices. And it's possible they need to force the changes because the code will run on both ARM and x86 hardware (well, I don't have proof but it should make sense that apps you buy for your Windows 8 ARM tablet should also be available on your PC.)

The PC platform is still open, everyone who says otherwise is just misleading people. On the PC, you can install all your programs the traditional way, the App Store is just an additional choice you have.

Sensationalist bashing article is sensationalist.
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I figure I'll just stick with Win7 until 9 or something, no point in wasting money on another 'Vista'.

^LOL. Just what did you think Win7 was? It's Vista 2.0 with a different name. Seriously. If you're upset with MS move to OSX or Gnu/Linux because I'm betting that the majority of know nothing consumers will like Win8 (unless they get fed enough "Win8 sucks" talk).
     
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If Windows 8 is successful, whether it be from market share or financially, and/or if Microsoft just continues blindly down their current path, ignoring all criticism, I fully expect Windows 9 to not have a "legacy" mode. That probably was their plan for 8 but they decided to be a bit conservative or time restraints kept them from completing it. I sincerely doubt that any company with as much software experience as Microsoft, would not understand the concept of consistency in a GUI. In other words, the Metro/Desktop hybrid is too half-assed to be their original plan, in my opinion.
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post #26 of 64
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No, that´s only your anti windows 8 bias. stop calling bullcrap things that are not.

Lol.

I'm afraid not.

Windows RT will only allow apps created using official MS tools, bought form MS and distributed through the Store.

You're showing your bias.

I'm also posting this from the RTM. Of which NOTHING has changed. So all you guys saying "wait until it's out" ok, I did. It still blows.
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Steam is still fully functional on Windows 8, is it just they fear that MS are going to go 100% closed marketplace, I can't believe they'd do that?
Valve feel threatened (they shouldn't) and it's just bravado.
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Games are the only thing that ties PCs to Microsoft these days, everything else is better, more secure, and more stable when it is not on Windows
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everyone else is looking for a way out even if they don’t vocalize their anger.

The first is just misleading and the second is ludicrous speculation even for SemiAccurate! There are quite a few more, I know it's an opinion article but it's a terribly written article regardless of the subject.

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Well, forcing apps to run through the Windows App Store is sensible for the ARM based devices, since that uses vastly different coding language from x86 devices. And it's possible they need to force the changes because the code will run on both ARM and x86 hardware (well, I don't have proof but it should make sense that apps you buy for your Windows 8 ARM tablet should also be available on your PC.)
The PC platform is still open, everyone who says otherwise is just misleading people. On the PC, you can install all your programs the traditional way, the App Store is just an additional choice you have.
Sensationalist bashing article is sensationalist.

Yes these types of articles are just full of it. There needs to start being a clear distinction between Windows RT and Windows 8. This makes complete sense why everything has to go through the Windows store on their RT tablets! Last time I checked, everything on iOS has to go through the App store as well as apps on android going through the Play market. Whats the difference here and why exactly are people getting upset? This does not effect PC users in the slightest. Yes there is an App store on Windows 8; Do you have to use it to have a fully functional computer? No..... I'm glad there are at least still SOME sane people in this thread who understand this.
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You could probably call me a little anti-Win8, but I still gotta admit this article is clearly exaggerated and deeply biased.
More trash journalism from SA. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
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If Windows 8 is successful, whether it be from market share or financially, and/or if Microsoft just continues blindly down their current path, ignoring all criticism, I fully expect Windows 9 to not have a "legacy" mode. That probably was their plan for 8 but they decided to be a bit conservative or time restraints kept them from completing it. I sincerely doubt that any company with as much software experience as Microsoft, would not understand the concept of consistency in a GUI. In other words, the Metro/Desktop hybrid is too half-assed to be their original plan, in my opinion.

This has been my fear as well.

If Windows 8 turns out to be even remotely successful, Microsoft will then have a good enough reason to kill off "legacy" desktop and move over to a touchscreen interface completely. I really hope Valve lobbies other game studios, and even other studios not apart of Steam to start supporting Linux. Linux is truly a free OS.

This trend of moving everything to touchscreen is getting out of hand and its only happening because companies just want to cash in on the latest cash cow. Not because its a natural, logical transition. Not because people are ditching their desktops and laptops because the majority are not. They're happy with the performance of their current computers because they work just fine. No, its because companies like Microsoft want something new and shinny to make the masses scream "TAKE MAH MONIES" like Apple fanbois do.

Microsoft is envy of Apple and their closed systems. Able to put perfectly fine computers and OS versions out of date every two years to ensure mass upgrades and steady cash flow. Its greed. Its ridiculous.
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