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Because the laws of reality state:
1) Fast
2) Reliable
3) Inexpensive
Choose AT MOST two of the above.
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They have all 3 in some countries in Europe. Latvia has 1Gbps for around $20USD/month and IIRC it's pretty reliable as well, with no caps. Sweden has 1Gbps as well but for a bit more (IIRC it's $50USD/month) but its also said to be pretty reliable and it doesn't have any caps either. I think it's actually a law in Sweden that says internet access is a human right.

I personally have 100Mbps/10Mbps for around $45USD/month, its really reliable (the lowest it has dropped to is 85Mbps but this was with 5 computers downloading things all at the same time and at peak times) and it doesn't have any caps either. In the last 3 weeks I have downloaded (on my own) 450 GB. I'm not counting what the rest of my family has downloaded.
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Not sure if it is specific to my area or the entire US, but we need faster upload speeds....I get 25 Mb/s down and 1 Mb/s up sigh

THIS! I'll gladly take my 15/2 connection and make it a 9/8 any day.
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Not sure if it is specific to my area or the entire US, but we need faster upload speeds....I get 25 Mb/s down and 1 Mb/s up sigh
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Originally Posted by Ghooble View Post

THIS! I'll gladly take my 15/2 connection and make it a 9/8 any day.
Kiwi yours sounds like RoadRunner speeds tongue.gif But yea they cap off upload speeds to around 1MB to filter out the mass spread of warez. Someone with a 1MB line won't be seeding torrents everyday above 1GB as its just pointless (unless your kick starting your own torrent). You need to get a service provider other then Time Warner in the US to get respectable speeds.
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It sounds like they are using a committed/non-committed rate system.
Basically they will do their best to see you get the paid for "committed" speed, and if you are online when traffic is light and the system can give you more, it will give you more, this would be the "non-committed" speed. Some ISP's deploy this, but many don't as smarter users will abuse the system and run massive torrents during off-peak hours.
No, they are caped. These speeds are typical without load balancing. They just cap you off at 1MB to keep warez from saturating their service. If you can't upload fast, there isn't much you will want to upload. Besides the fact your up speed means nothing for daily tasks, web surfing, gaming, everything 90% of typical customers do on their computer barely touches 1MB up.
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I'm paying $45/month for mine tongue.gif No caps either.

Ohhhhh you just want to rub it in -_-
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No, they are caped. These speeds are typical without load balancing. They just cap you off at 1MB to keep warez from saturating their service. If you can't upload fast, there isn't much you will want to upload. Besides the fact your up speed means nothing for daily tasks, web surfing, gaming, everything 90% of typical customers do on their computer barely touches 1MB up.

I am not talking about caps. The person I made that reply to stated he pays for one service level and typically receives higher speeds. Specifically he stated he pays for a 15Mb/1.5Mb but typically sees speeds up towards 30Mb/3Mb. Either he is provisioned for the higher speed but his billing is incorrect and he is being charged less than he should or they are using a committed/non-committed system.

Or the 3rd option, his ISP uses bursting, where they double the first 30 to 60 seconds of a connections speed. This helps clear the network on short file transfers and also makes the connection look extra good during speed tests.
    
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Really need to catch Korea so we can play on Korean servers and beat them in starcraft 2...

...wait there are other uses for internet?
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Anyone wanna trade with 3mb down/ 1mb up? Thats when everyone in my family is asleep, Then i normally get 1.2mb down.. OH and if i go over my 65gb cap.. Down to 700kb
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I am not talking about caps. The person I made that reply to stated he pays for one service level and typically receives higher speeds. Specifically he stated he pays for a 15Mb/1.5Mb but typically sees speeds up towards 30Mb/3Mb. Either he is provisioned for the higher speed but his billing is incorrect and he is being charged less than he should or they are using a committed/non-committed system.
Or the 3rd option, his ISP uses bursting, where they double the first 30 to 60 seconds of a connections speed. This helps clear the network on short file transfers and also makes the connection look extra good during speed tests.
Unlikely, they must be offering him advanced service for a lower price. Either that or he lives right next door to his service provider. You would be defiantly be throttled before doubling your speed. Unless he goes through a generic ISP that offers one flat rate committed speed to everybody. If you get more then that, then its just gravy. ISP's in America don't work like that at all that's why I bring it up.
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Unlikely, they must be offering him advanced service for a lower price. Either that or he lives right next door to his service provider. You would be defiantly be throttled before doubling your speed. Unless he goes through a generic ISP that offers one flat rate committed speed to everybody. If you get more then that, then its just gravy. ISP's in America don't work like that at all that's why I bring it up.

I own an ISP. so to say I have an understanding of how they work is a bit of an understatement. Trust me when I say, what he is describing and my response is not uncommon, and very possible. As ISP's we design our networks with a particular load capability in mind, if traffic is particularly light it is very easy to allow the customers that are using it at that time higher speeds than what they subscribe too. Again, a committed to non-committed system.
    
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I own an ISP. so to say I have an understanding of how they work is a bit of an understatement. Trust me when I say, what he is describing and my response is not uncommon, and very possible. As ISP's we design our networks with a particular load capability in mind, if traffic is particularly light it is very easy to allow the customers that are using it at that time higher speeds than what they subscribe too. Again, a committed to non-committed system.
Here we go with the "I own a ISP so I know more then you" baloney. Even so that wouldn't make you acceptable to knowing more then everyone else here. You might own a gas station, yet still have no clue how to even pump gas. I spent many years studying networking and server backbones. I will tell you this, no company is going to offer you twice your committed rate for no extra charge. Why? Because one, its not cost effective. And two, the company would lose more then it has to gain. Like said, its not logical unless he has a unmetered and uncaped plan (which he most likely pays a bunch extra for). Most company's don't do this because it builds a very unstable network (internal bottlenecks). The hardware has to constantly check against very strict criteria that causes an obvious latency. Also note this is something completely different then load balancing. I'm not saying its impossible, because I have written firmware to do it. I'm saying its not something you see in the U.S. frequently, if at all.
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