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http://www.splius.lt/Internetas
I know it's in Lithuanian, but this ISP offers 310/310 fibre for 95 litas (~US$33) monthly. This is in a place that was part of the Soviet Union not too long ago. If they can do it, there's no excuse for us.

This is an example of government subsidization and what you can do when you put enough fiber in the ground. As Google is trying to show with Google Fiber, once you break a certain speed you can actually start providing faster speeds for less money. Basically bulk bandwidth, it becomes cheaper and cheaper, the problem is actually getting to it. As an ISP we see this with our Tier 1 providers, who we essentially buy our managed fiber from, companies like Hurricane Electric, Cogent, AT&T, and Level 3. The more you buy the cheaper it is per Mb, and it scales way down, but again, getting to it and getting it out to the customer is the big issue.

I really hate to bring Politics into the conversation, but I will because of the staggering number it brings. The US has spent approximately $4,000,000,000,000.00 on the war, if the US would even invest a quarter of that dollar amount into building our infrastructure and removed the inane regulations in place by the FCC, we would see massive gains in our capacities and services. Heck, the UK has in the last year invested more into their system than the US has in....years!
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I have Comcast here. Speed test shows 25Mbps down 4Mbps up. So I should be getting 3MB/s down 500KB/s up. I'll be damned if I ever actually see a download maintain a speed above 2MB/s or an upload speed above 125KB/s. Steam is always the fastest, with blips of 2.2MB/s and sustained at 1.9MB/s. Torrents are close with 1.5ish MB/s down, never more than that. And every time I'm downloading anything at a rate around or above 1MB/s the network slows to a crawl for every other computer in the house. I think Comcast is giving preferential treatment to speed tests and charging us for speeds we never actually see, not even during off-peak hours. It sucks only getting 66% or less of the speed that we pay for. Any way to find out if we're being fleeced?

Something to keep in mind is that when downloading it is a two way street. You can have a 500Mb connection, but if the other end can't give it to you that fast, you won't see those insane speeds.
    
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Something to keep in mind is that when downloading it is a two way street. You can have a 500Mb connection, but if the other end can't give it to you that fast, you won't see those insane speeds.

I realize this, but Steam ought to be able to handle 3MB/s download speeds at 3am. Still hovers at 1.9 regardless of which server I'm using. Torrents as well, since they can come from more than just a single server, should have nearly limitless bandwidth potential. Again, during off-peak hours, like 3am, on a well-seeded torrent, can't muster more than 1.5MB/s. Seeding during equivalent periods, when it's the only thing I'm doing, speeds still do not get above 125KB/s, and I haven't touched the throttling in uTorrent's settings. Hell, sometimes even OCN is slow.
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Has a 35mbps biggrin.gif you guys jelly?
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Has a 35mbps biggrin.gif you guys jelly?

I do too, it's nothing to be jelly of.
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Has a 35mbps biggrin.gif you guys jelly?

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I only really see the benefit of my 50Mb connection when downloading larger files. Games from Steam for example.
Virgin Media are doubling everyone's speed by the middle of next year too. Mine will be done by December hopefully. 100Mb here we come!

It really helps when you have a lot of concurrent users too. I'm on 3Mb/s now and most of my household seems really into video streaming atm. The only time my internet is acceptable is during the night when nobody's using it but me.

I'm surprised the US is in the top 10. They have a huge, strangely distributed population.

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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

This is an example of government subsidization and what you can do when you put enough fiber in the ground. As Google is trying to show with Google Fiber, once you break a certain speed you can actually start providing faster speeds for less money. Basically bulk bandwidth, it becomes cheaper and cheaper, the problem is actually getting to it. As an ISP we see this with our Tier 1 providers, who we essentially buy our managed fiber from, companies like Hurricane Electric, Cogent, AT&T, and Level 3. The more you buy the cheaper it is per Mb, and it scales way down, but again, getting to it and getting it out to the customer is the big issue.
I really hate to bring Politics into the conversation, but I will because of the staggering number it brings. The US has spent approximately $4,000,000,000,000.00 on the war, if the US would even invest a quarter of that dollar amount into building our infrastructure and removed the inane regulations in place by the FCC, we would see massive gains in our capacities and services. Heck, the UK has in the last year invested more into their system than the US has in....years!
Something to keep in mind is that when downloading it is a two way street. You can have a 500Mb connection, but if the other end can't give it to you that fast, you won't see those insane speeds.

One of the main reasons the US ISPs got into this mess is because of regulations that were already removed that countries like SK and japan still use today.
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One of the main reasons the US ISPs got into this mess is because of regulations that were already removed that countries like SK and japan still use today.

What are these mystical regulations of zen internet distribution you speak of? I would interested in knowing. PostalTwinkie has been giving reasoned, logical and explicit responses based on his first hand experience of actually being part of a large ISP. Your responses have basically amounted to "Nuh uh! According to my general and unsubstantiated statements you are wrong!"

I can't build a fence in my backyard without clearing it with about 4 levels of regulation bureaucracy. I am not the least bit surprised at the rudimentary cost analysis PostalTwinkie used to characterize the costs and red tape involved. There is not always some villainous CEO in a three piece suit counting his money in a backroom to fit with your world view. Sometimes it really just is a matter of something not being cost effective.
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I love my internet.

What ISP is that?

my optimum dont come close to that lol

and You must be near by me, because I use seacaucas and plainfield for my speed test
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What ISP is that?
my optimum dont come close to that lol
and You must be near by me, because I use seacaucas and plainfield for my speed test

Verizon...

It says it in the results next to "ISP:"
    
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