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Blackwidows have these, as do Blackwidow Ultimates, with more features, which are also both mechanical keyboards.

4514kaiser, you might want to ignore the Blackwidows as someone on their design team decided to misplace the F1 key (it's placed above the 2 and 3 keys). It is also a very poorly made mech keyboard.

The CM Storm Trigger has all the functions you mentioned.

 
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4514kaiser, you might want to ignore the Blackwidows as someone on their design team decided to misplace the F1 key (it's placed above the 2 and 3 keys). It is also a very poorly made mech keyboard.
The CM Storm Trigger has all the functions you mentioned.

The alteration to the Fkey layout was done because its actually directly above the W key, with a left offset of 0.2cm ± 0.05mm, to easily allow usage of the early F keys with the primary finger when using a wasd layout.

Give 1 reason to support the claim that its a badly made keyboard, and let me ask you this, have you ever owned one?

This is OCN, sharing your opinions is welcomed, but back it up if you're gonna try and claim it as fact.

Edit: I'd point out here that its my turn to call you out, but that'd be sinking to your level wink.gif
Edited by SniperTeamTango - 8/22/12 at 12:45am
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The alteration to the Fkey layout was done because its actually directly above the W key, with a left offset of 0.2cm ± 0.05mm, to easily allow usage of the early F keys with the primary finger when using a wasd layout.
Give 1 reason to support the claim that its a badly made keyboard, and let me ask you this, have you ever owned one?
This is OCN, sharing your opinions is welcomed, but back it up if you're gonna try and claim it as fact.
Edit: I'd point out here that its my turn to call you out, but that'd be sinking to your level wink.gif

Wrist on keyboard rest/table my middle finger just reaches 2/3, and my pinkie just reaches shift/capslock.

With my Blackwiddow BF3 yada yada edition.

Increasing amounts of female gamers and Blokes with chicks hands (ie Me rolleyes.gif ) meaning that having F keys like they do with the Blackwidow is a good thing.

Little things people criticize because its different, changes like this that can give any benefit are neat and usually overlooked.
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Edit: I'd point out here that its my turn to call you out, but that'd be sinking to your level wink.gif

"He called me out so I'm going to call him out when I get the chance" You must be very bored, this isn't a game of tag. Oh and for the record I never called you out. kookoo.gif You have issues.

Obviously you have very poor memory. Scroll up a few posts for your facts. It was a BlackWidow owner on OCN who made that vid, but here it is just in case you're too lazy or blind to see it. You even admitted it was a failure. rolleyes.gif
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Believe me you won't have to try hard to get me to admit that this is a failure of design.

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The alteration to the Fkey layout was done because its actually directly above the W key, with a left offset of 0.2cm ± 0.05mm, to easily allow usage of the early F keys with the primary finger when using a wasd layout.

So? Doesn't make it a good idea, the F1 key is misplaced, no matter how you put it. No other mech keyboard/gaming keyboard/normal keyboard on the market places the F1 key there.

Like I said, you're a Razer user. You will defend their products like a obedient servant void of all rationality. Does Razer pay you a teeny amount of money to make you their loyal follower? Just curious.
 
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Like I said, you're a Razer user. You will defend their products like a obedient servant void of all rationality. Does Razer pay you a teeny amount of money to make you their loyal follower? Just curious.

Obedient servant because he likes a Razer product? rolleyes.gif Your tone is ridiculous.
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Blackwidows have these, as do Blackwidow Ultimates, with more features, which are also both mechanical keyboards.

Well No your wrong
1. there not DEDICATED MEDIA KEYS if you have to use a function key sames goes of course for the volume controller
2. Back-lighting that you can choose the colour of - NO mech keyboard has this some have back light some manufactures even let you choose the colours you want eg MaxKeyboards NONE have the capacity to change the LED colours on the go.

The Only thing the Blackwidow has is the macro's and i assume silly 1000mhz polling.

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My Corsair K60 has dedicated media keys, volume control, a disable win button button, comes with a wrist rest, and a 1ms reporting rate. The K90 has even more, adding on macro keys, macro software, and backlight.
Both use Cherry MX Red mechanical switches, and have 20-key rollover.

Nicely done and you know what a dedicated media keys are! (not that the media keys are mechanical) - That said the K60 has hardly got a proper wrist rest. and no you can't change the lighting colours on a K90 - I hear great things about this keyboard but i always found it amazingly ugly which is strange I usually like the look of bare aluminium!


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So we have 2 razer keyboards, 2 corsair keyboards, I bet there's a CM keyboard that has it too.

2 razer keyboards? there are like 10 Blackwidows by now lol but none of the have 4 out of the 11 thing specified, Theres a few CM keyboards that have a wrist rest, 1000mhz polling and I think some macro capacity but none have more the 3 of the 11 things stated.
But your right with the Corsair forgot it had dedicated media keys lol

So there are the Corsairs keyboards I believe then there's also the Mech4 and Gigabyte Aiviaa Osmium keyboards which have 4+ of the 11 basic gaming keyboard features mentioned. That's 4 keyboards out of what must be 40+ supposed mech 'Gaming grade keyboards' out on the market, that's a lot of keyboards lacking alot of basic quirky features
    
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So? Doesn't make it a good idea, the F1 key is misplaced, no matter how you put it. No other mech keyboard/gaming keyboard/normal keyboard on the market places the F1 key there.
Like I said, you're a Razer user. You will defend their products like a obedient servant void of all rationality. Does Razer pay you a teeny amount of money to make you their loyal follower? Just curious.

Actually there is one or two, though his reasoning is complete made up bull. Razer shared tooling with a certain company as a template. That's all I'll say.
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Hmm I would not get the Blackwidow or CM both companies have a terrible track record in making Good quality products however I own neither of these products so i would be unfair for me to comment on them, If I was to get a mech keyboard I'd probably get a WASD, Maxkeyboard or MK-85........But i would not get these for gaming just to improve my typing....... Then again I am a sucker for low profile keys and over priced junk biggrin.gif
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Edit: I'd point out here that its my turn to call you out, but that'd be sinking to your level wink.gif

"He called me out so I'm going to call him out when I get the chance" You must be very bored, this isn't a game of tag. Oh and for the record I never called you out. kookoo.gif You have issues.

Obviously you have very poor memory. Scroll up a few posts for your facts. It was a BlackWidow owner on OCN who made that vid, but here it is just in case you're too lazy or blind to see it. You even admitted it was a failure. rolleyes.gif
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Believe me you won't have to try hard to get me to admit that this is a failure of design.

Post #170

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The alteration to the Fkey layout was done because its actually directly above the W key, with a left offset of 0.2cm ± 0.05mm, to easily allow usage of the early F keys with the primary finger when using a wasd layout.

So? Doesn't make it a good idea, the F1 key is misplaced, no matter how you put it. No other mech keyboard/gaming keyboard/normal keyboard on the market places the F1 key there.

Like I said, you're a Razer user. You will defend their products like a obedient servant void of all rationality. Does Razer pay you a teeny amount of money to make you their loyal follower? Just curious.
Yeah that' if you take them out and dont put them back in properly.

From an actual BW owner.
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Hmm I would not get the Blackwidow or CM both companies have a terrible track record in making Good quality products however I own neither of these products so i would be unfair for me to comment on them, If I was to get a mech keyboard I'd probably get a WASD, Maxkeyboard or MK-85........But i would not get these for gaming just to improve my typing....... Then again I am a sucker for low profile keys and over priced junk biggrin.gif

The CM Trigger is made by the same company that makes Filco (Corstar). The BlackWidow is made by iOne. Keyboardphiles on OCN hold Filco mech keyboards in very high regard. That is the reason why I went with the CM Trigger, it is a very high quality product.

However I wish my mech keyboard would do this,

 
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120GB V3 MAX IOPS, 12TB External Lian Li EX-50 Lite-On iHBS112-29, Pioneer BDR-206DBKS Stock Windows 7 Pro x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Sony 54.6" XBR HX929 Logitech MK550 Seasonic X650 GOLD Lian Li PC-B25FWB 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech MK550 Ikea Leather mouse pad Onboard 
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i7 2600K (4.6GHz) ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe MSI R6970 Lightning 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 1600MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 3 240GB, 12TB External Lian Li EX-50 2x Samsung SH-S223F NZXT Havik 140 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2570 CM Storm Trigger Seasonic X750 GOLD Lian Li PC-P80NB 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech G400 (the new MX518) NuPad Leather Mouse Pad Asus Xonar Essence ST (UNi drivers 1.41) 
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