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The longest I managed to run prime was two hours. Wish I could go longer but I just don't have the time.

 

Maybe you don't, but your computer does.  wink.gif

 

What I mean is that it is better to leave the computer alone while Prime95 is running;  that is, don't do other things while Prime95 is running.  It's even good to disable things that might happen automatically while Prime95 is running, such as the screensaver, anti-virus, an auto-defragger, messaging programs (if someone sends you a message while you're away), Windows Update, etc. etc...

 

So, what you can do is take advantage of when you know you will be away from home.  For example, if you have to get up in the morning to go to work or to school, then start the test right before going to bed the night before and then don't touch the computer again until you get home from work or school that next day.

 

I mean, let's say that you have to go to bed at 11pm, and let's say that you won't be home the next day until sometime after 11am.  This means that by the time you come home, 12 hours will have already passed without you having to wait at all.

 

A 24-hour test can be performed in a similar way if you can come home from work or school and then go right back out for the evening to hang out with friends or something like that.  You could come home and then wait until 11pm to check the text.

 

So, there's no need to sit and wait for it.

    
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Maybe you don't, but your computer does.  wink.gif

What I mean is that it is better to leave the computer alone while Prime95 is running;  that is, don't do other things while Prime95 is running.  It's even good to disable things that might happen automatically while Prime95 is running, such as the screensaver, anti-virus, an auto-defragger, messaging programs (if someone sends you a message while you're away), Windows Update, etc. etc...

So, what you can do is take advantage of when you know you will be away from home.  For example, if you have to get up in the morning to go to work or to school, then start the test right before going to bed the night before and then don't touch the computer again until you get home from work or school that next day.

I mean, let's say that you have to go to bed at 11pm, and let's say that you won't be home the next day until sometime after 11am.  This means that by the time you come home, 12 hours will have already passed without you having to wait at all.

A 24-hour test can be performed in a similar way if you can come home from work or school and then go right back out for the evening to hang out with friends or something like that.  You could come home and then wait until 11pm to check the text.

So, there's no need to sit and wait for it.

What if it crashes when I'm away? How will I know how long into the test it occurred? I would like to test for 12 hours especially when I'm away so I don't have to wait. :-)
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What if it crashes when I'm away? How will I know how long into the test it occurred? I would like to test for 12 hours especially when I'm away so I don't have to wait. :-)

 

If Windows is set to automatically restart upon a BSOD (it's set this way by default), then you can check the "Up Time" in Task Manager's Performance tab to see how long ago it occurred.  Or, check Event Viewer to see what time it happened at.

 

If it locks up, then you'll be able to just look at the time stamp in Prime95 or the Windows clock.  :)

 

If one of the workers fails, then you'll be able to check the time stamp in Prime95 for that failed worker to see when it failed.

    
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Not meaning the hijack the thread, but seeing as TwoCables is here tongue.gif

I know it's the norm to test for 12 hours to let a full cycle of FFTs complete after an overclock. What I was wondering is what the real point of doing so is? not questioning the method of course. Hypothetically speaking, if your overclock was not stable, does it cause crashes, or would it be counter-productive, and harm performance also?

I was just always curious, if an unstable OC just caused it to crash, or also lower performance. Not a blatantly unstable one ofc, but not completely stable, I mean.
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I agree with the opinion that linpack is better. I used to spend hours on stability testing but now I don't even use prime95 anymore. From my experience if your OC is unstable you'll sometimes have to wait up to 12 hours for prime95 to show errors, but linpack will give you the result in less than 2 hours. I remember I had an overclock where prime95 would error after like 9 hours and linpack in less than 15 minutes.
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Not meaning the hijack the thread, but seeing as TwoCables is here tongue.gif
I know it's the norm to test for 12 hours to let a full cycle of FFTs complete after an overclock. What I was wondering is what the real point of doing so is? not questioning the method of course. Hypothetically speaking, if your overclock was not stable, does it cause crashes, or would it be counter-productive, and harm performance also?
I was just always curious, if an unstable OC just caused it to crash, or also lower performance. Not a blatantly unstable one ofc, but not completely stable, I mean.

Data corruption, freezes, CTD's, a lot of annoying things really. Especially unstable ram can cause numerous weird issues.

Personally, if it was just for gaming and no boasting then I wouldn't care too much about super stability. 1344, 1792, 2688 K FFT lengths 20 minutes each with 75 - 80 % RAM usage (or the most you can allocate without gimping your OS) would suffice to be in the clear. You could always do a 2 - 3 hour blend run with extra RAM and 4-5 minute per FFT length.

But if you plan on folding or other stuff that requires perfect stability and no errors then you should do 12-24 h Prime95 blend with extra RAM, SuperPi, Linpack/IBT, 3Dmark/PCmark and pretty much every other stress test you come across. You can never be 100% certain of stability when overclocking but if you do many stress-tests for long periods of time you can consider yourself 99.9999...% stable.

But for gaming I don't think it's necessary, the only harm that comes from not being perfectly stable would be a CTD or a BSOD and that would only harm you really. But it's perfectly possible to run games without crashing on an unstable processor BTW.
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I agree with the opinion that linpack is better. I used to spend hours on stability testing but now I don't even use prime95 anymore. From my experience if your OC is unstable you'll sometimes have to wait up to 12 hours for prime95 to show errors, but linpack will give you the result in less than 2 hours. I remember I had an overclock where prime95 would error after like 9 hours and linpack in less than 15 minutes.

And I've had cases where IBT would pass with flying colours and crash within 5 minutes in Prime95. Point is: if you are concerned about stability and you need it: do both.
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Not meaning the hijack the thread, but seeing as TwoCables is here tongue.gif
I know it's the norm to test for 12 hours to let a full cycle of FFTs complete after an overclock. What I was wondering is what the real point of doing so is? not questioning the method of course. Hypothetically speaking, if your overclock was not stable, does it cause crashes, or would it be counter-productive, and harm performance also?
I was just always curious, if an unstable OC just caused it to crash, or also lower performance. Not a blatantly unstable one ofc, but not completely stable, I mean.

 

I've heard that instability can result in corrupt files or data, but I don't know yet if there's any truth to that.

 

I've also been told that the more stable an overclocked system is, the easier the overclock is on the CPU.  That's not to say that I assume perfect stability results in the same lifespan as never overclocking, but I imagine that it means it allows a longer lifespan than otherwise might be possible with instability.

 

I think instability affects performance too, but it may only show up in benchmarks.  I'm not sure.

 

For me though, it's peace of mind that I can relax knowing that I'll never see a lock-up or a BSOD, or any problems whatsoever.  That's what I've been enjoying ever since July 11th of 2011 when I upgraded to Sandy Bridge and overclocked it to 4.7 GHz.  I used Prime95 v26.6 build 3, but I don't know how many FFT sizes it has in the Blend test.  Although, my system is stable enough to run the Custom Blend test in that version of Prime95 for a bit over 12 hours with about 95% of my memory utilized (as opposed to Prime95's default of 1024 MB).

 

Since that time, a new version of Prime95 came out (version 27.7 build 2), and I found out that it has 82 FFT sizes that the Blend test goes through.  I intentionally found this out by performing the Custom Blend test with it set to 1 minute per FFT size.  Instead of taking 82 minutes, it took 105 minutes!  So if someone wants Prime95 v27.7 build 2's Custom Blend test to go through all 82 FFT sizes at 15 minutes per FFT (which is likely much more stressful than 1 minute per FFT), then they would probably have to have a goal of about 24 hours!  I mean, 82x15 is 1,230 minutes, and 1,230 divided by 60 is 20.5 hours.  I mean, at only 1 minute per FFT, it took 105 minutes instead of 82, so I can only imagine how much longer it would take than 20.5 hours at 15 minutes per FFT.

 

Now, I suppose a compromise could be reached by doing 10 minutes per FFT size which would be exactly 13.67 hours before considering the extra time in between each FFT which could result in the final time being about 15-16 hours I guess.

 

Although, I have to consider the fact that I didn't know this stuff back when I tested the stability of my 4.7 GHz overclock in Prime95 v26.6 build 3.  All I knew was "12 hours", so that's what I did and it's been perfectly stable ever since.  It's so stable that it's almost boring!  :)

 

 

Edit:  I say linpack is useless if you have a CPU that has the AVX instruction set (such as Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge) unless you are lucky enough to have downloaded one of the linpack programs that take advantage of AVX.  If not, then your linpack tester is not stressing the entire CPU and is probably a waste of time.  Prime95 v27.7 build 2 uses the AVX instruction set, so I assume that this makes it the best stability testing program available right now.


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Great answers guys +1, thanks.
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I just added the following to my giant post above:

 

I say linpack is useless if you have a CPU that has the AVX instruction set (such as Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge) unless you are lucky enough to have downloaded one of the linpack programs that take advantage of AVX.  If not, then your linpack tester is not stressing the entire CPU and is probably a waste of time.  Prime95 v27.7 build 2 uses the AVX instruction set, so I assume that this makes it the best stability testing program available right now.

    
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Run it for one Hour, and see if you get errors. If you dont great. Then run it for 6. If you do,You have to Adjust the overclock. Then you can play the games at your desired speed. BUT just to be safe i would leave it on when you sleep for the night. you can game in the day the next day, and run it again in the night.
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