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8/20/12 at 4:15am
There are sites that allow you to raise funds to get a project off the ground, but it's usually the people doing the work that are raising the money, not people looking for someone else to do the work.
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8/20/12 at 4:19am
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Basically, I was thinking about how to get better support for things or at least get more/better programs in the Gnu/Linux ecosystem while providing incentives for people to follow the open source idea. The idea was that basically if you wanted a feature/program but you couldn't make it yourself you'd describe what you want and then open up a bounty for other's who want the same thing to pitch in and get a pot growing that would pay out to the first person(s) to release successful (working) open source code. I'm not the best at describing ideas but this was about as simple of a description as I could come up with.
So what do you guys think? Feel free to come up with a better description or method. This is basically a question of how to reward people for providing for those who can't provide for themselves while avoiding the whole closed source thing.

I don't even like that business model on Windows as I've found freelance programmers to be largely useless.
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post #13 of 66
8/20/12 at 5:48pm
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Alright...so what would be the best way for people who have a demand/need but not the skill to make their own program get one made to somewhat their "specifications" while rewarding the people who can make the program and even making it open source in a way that is more or equally attractive as closed source?
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8/21/12 at 1:50am
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Alright...so what would be the best way for people who have a demand/need but not the skill to make their own program get one made to somewhat their "specifications" while rewarding the people who can make the program and even making it open source in a way that is more or equally attractive as closed source?
The current model is fine. Open source just needs to learn to accept constructive criticism from non-developers. At the moment there's often this "them and us" attitude between the users and the devs.

If the existing devs listened to the users more, then there wouldn't be any need to hire useless freelancers to knock out shoddy code.
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post #15 of 66
8/21/12 at 6:57am
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The current model is fine. Open source just needs to learn to accept constructive criticism from non-developers. At the moment there's often this "them and us" attitude between the users and the devs.
If the existing devs listened to the users more, then there wouldn't be any need to hire useless freelancers to knock out shoddy code.

But my point (from an economics/incentives perspective) is that there seems to be no reason for the devs to listen to us if we're not "paying" them or rewarding them in some way for their work. What I'm really getting at is that my friend who got me into Gnu/Linux pointed out he doesn't use it much anymore because he's pretty much always testing and coding for windows programs and maybe some droid on the side because that's where the money is easiest to get at. So how can Gnu/Linux become competitive on that issue?
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8/21/12 at 7:15am
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But my point (from an economics/incentives perspective) is that there seems to be no reason for the devs to listen to us if we're not "paying" them or rewarding them in some way for their work. What I'm really getting at is that my friend who got me into Gnu/Linux pointed out he doesn't use it much anymore because he's pretty much always testing and coding for windows programs and maybe some droid on the side because that's where the money is easiest to get at. So how can Gnu/Linux become competitive on that issue?

You can sell proprietary apps for Linux too - so there's already that incentive there.
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8/21/12 at 7:21am
i dont see the difference between asking for aprogram for windows and linux, if you want a custom program just go to a developer tongue.gif

If oyou need funconality on the kernel then there is allways the mailing lists and the IRC channels where the devels will listen to you and say yay or nay to a per-prosed inclusion or change
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But my point (from an economics/incentives perspective) is that there seems to be no reason for the devs to listen to us if we're not "paying" them or rewarding them in some way for their work. What I'm really getting at is that my friend who got me into Gnu/Linux pointed out he doesn't use it much anymore because he's pretty much always testing and coding for windows programs and maybe some droid on the side because that's where the money is easiest to get at. So how can Gnu/Linux become competitive on that issue?

You can sell proprietary apps for Linux too - so there's already that incentive there.

A good point. all the cad machines at my dads work run autocad on RHEL or SLED
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8/21/12 at 2:58pm
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A good point. all the cad machines at my dads work run autocad on RHEL or SLED

Guess it's a good thing you're in Canada. I mean...when the majority of CS/CE and everything here is just geared towards Windows there's something wrong. Maybe it's just a US problem but there is almost open hostility or fear if a person mentions open source or Gnu/Linux and this is among all groups not just the "nerds".

@Plan9: I can't recall...there was a guy in the windows section (I think it was josh or jrl who started the thread "why don't you use Linux") complaining about the fact that he either had to remake the same lib or he couldn't make a profit if he used the lib (GPL). Is there truth to his complaint that he couldn't make a profit at all since it depended on a GPL work? And also...can't creating your own libs for your specific program slow down Gnu/Linux? I may have misunderstood (I'm a business major) but I thought there was a feature either in the kernel or generally included in which libs would be "stored" (lack of a better understanding/wording) once they were called so that the next time a program needs them even if it's a different program...the program would load faster? I'm sure my extremely limited programming exposure is going to show here but; wouldn't it require more space and slow things down if everyone just made their own private libraries to use for each individual program? I mean isn't that a contributing problem for Windows?
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A good point. all the cad machines at my dads work run autocad on RHEL or SLED

Guess it's a good thing you're in Canada. I mean...when the majority of CS/CE and everything here is just geared towards Windows there's something wrong. Maybe it's just a US problem but there is almost open hostility or fear if a person mentions open source or Gnu/Linux and this is among all groups not just the "nerds".

@Plan9: I can't recall...there was a guy in the windows section (I think it was josh or jrl who started the thread "why don't you use Linux") complaining about the fact that he either had to remake the same lib or he couldn't make a profit if he used the lib (GPL). Is there truth to his complaint that he couldn't make a profit at all since it depended on a GPL work? And also...can't creating your own libs for your specific program slow down Gnu/Linux? I may have misunderstood (I'm a business major) but I thought there was a feature either in the kernel or generally included in which libs would be "stored" (lack of a better understanding/wording) once they were called so that the next time a program needs them even if it's a different program...the program would load faster? I'm sure my extremely limited programming exposure is going to show here but; wouldn't it require more space and slow things down if everyone just made their own private libraries to use for each individual program? I mean isn't that a contributing problem for Windows?

That was joshd. I just trolled it smile.gif
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