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Originally Posted by Warmonger View Post

Bad change? I still have yet to find anyone point out real flaws in the new Start Menu. So far its only opinions. Except of course known bugs like minimum screen resolution and what not (proof Windows 8 is not done, Windows 9 will be the golden ticket for the new Start Menu).
No official word of it even being developed yet. Build 9200 was the rumor but it turned out being Windows 8 RTM.

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When they're complaints, they're just opinions. When it's praise it's fact?

I supposed high speed programmers would see it that way rolleyes.gif

There are plenty of legitimate complaints and "problems" with Metro. It's not because people don't know how to use it or are "too lazy to learn" or any of the rubbish I see you people saying about others. It's a simple fact that Metro gets in the way for a lot of people. They don't like it and don't need it in their system.

YOU might THINK it makes YOU more productive, but that doesn't mean it works for others. There is is absolutely NO REASON why the rest of the people who don't want it can't just disable it and work how THEY want to work. I know I'm talking to a brick wall here and you will make a ridiculous post back disagreeing totally with me and finding some excuse as to why Metro should be forced on everyone but you're wrong. Plain and simply wrong. Metro shouldn't be forced. It should be a choice.
Edited by Rubers - 8/18/12 at 5:06am
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The OS takes up much less space

Much less? In my experience, WIndows 8 takes about 2GB less space than 7, but at least a GB more than Server 2008 R2 (and about 6GB more than XP x64).

The reduction is significant (and appreciated) vs. Windows 7, but hardly qualifies as much less in the greater scheme of things, unless you are using a positively tiny SSD.
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No more "constantly" than opening the start menu. Think about it, what reason would you have to open the start menu in previous Windows iterations? To launch a program, right? Are you doing anything else while the start menu is opened? No, you're not. You can't. What would be the reason to launch METRO? To launch a program. The only reason to ever launch metro would be to open a program. The same reason you launch a start menu. It's not like Windows is constantly forcing you back to the metro screen against your will. You have to go there yourself and only to launch a program. While this is happening you can't really do anything else; but it's the same for the start menu. If the start menu opens, and you try to do something else...it closes. So basically, all the reasoning you gave behind you hating Windows 8 translates directly back to older variations of Windows with start menus for the exact same reasons.
Essentially all I'm saying here is people like you (not to be taken out of context) are exaggerating GREATLY to get over your point for hating Windows 8. Either that, or there is the possibility that you haven't actually tried 8 yet personally and are basing your beliefs on other peoples words, which is wrong. However, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, as it seems like you have tried it and it's just a misunderstanding.
TL;DR: The frequency you use metro is no different than the frequency you use the start menu. They are both similar in the way that they disrupt your desktop and you can't do anything else during the process (actually, with dual monitors w/ metro, you can). You're not forced into it. You use it as much as you need to for launching programs.

You act as if launching programs is the only negative thing that happens when you stay in Metro as opposed to Desktop and thus are only thinking that it is a launcher.

Many of my issues with Metro is that if you want to STAY in Metro, it is totally gimped when it comes to opening up multiple windows at the same time and having them dynamically resized so that you aren't running in just "full screen", "1/3rd screen", etc. I typically run with 5 or 8 programs and windows up ALL THE TIME and they are are in various states of size, etc. You just can't effectively do that while staying in Metro. Metro is great for people who do 1 or 2 things at a time and want to have 2/3rds of their screen running 1 program and the other 1/3rd running something else. It is absolutely SUCKS when it comes to running more than 3 or 4 and you want to view the data all the time. That is because it was designed to be on a single low resolution monitor ... not a high resolution system where you can effectively pull up 5 or 8 windows and have readable and usable data going all at once.

I'm an MSDN developer, I've been using it for months now. It sucks for me and many others. Why some people just can't understand that and always seem to go to the "Well, the reason why you don't like Windows 8 is because you OBVIOUSLY haven't tried it and you are just saying that it sucks because other people say it sucks." Sorry, but that isn't the case, and I wish the "Windows 8 Fanboi's" would stop saying that. A lot of people, and ESPECIALLY those on tech boards like this one, who say Windows 8 sucks HAVE TRIED IT. They've tried it and they don't like it. Why you and others just can't accept that is beyond me. You act as if people can't get a copy of Windows 8 and install it in 30 minutes and try it.

My "hatred" of Windows 8 stems from one major issue ... it will cause me and others to adapt to IT and spend untold hours (or NEVER in my case) to do the exact same thing as Windows 7 (or if Microsoft would pull their head out of their tails, Windows 8 with the option to do what every version of Windows has done since Windows 95, and have an OPTION to run in "Classic View"). Software should adapt to the USER, NOT ... I repeat ... NOT the other way around.
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I dont care how much better windows 8 performes compared to windows 7. They have removed everyting of functionality and user friendlieness, and replaced it with a crappy UI that is geared towards TABLETS! I dont even OWN a tuchscreen of any form, and I'm most scertainly not the only one either. I wont be getting windows 8 unless they bring back the "traditional" UI they so kindly perfected since windows 95, and if they never do I'll switch over fully to Linux and hope for the best on their side.

Microsoft... my jimmies are utterly rustled...
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The reduction is significant (and appreciated) vs. Windows 7, but hardly qualifies as much less in the greater scheme of things, unless you are using a positively tiny SSD.

I'm running on a 30GB drive partitioned down to 27.5GB. Every MB of space not wasted on the OS is precious to me smile.gif Sadly, it makes little difference in the long run as it will just mean more room for Windows to put on the kilos later down the track.
    
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I'm running on a 30GB drive partitioned down to 27.5GB. Every MB of space not wasted on the OS is precious to me smile.gif Sadly, it makes little difference in the long run as it will just mean more room for Windows to put on the kilos later down the track.

My Windows 7 install is 21GB wink.gif Just move C:\Users and C:\ProgramData to another drive wink.gif
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My Windows 7 install is 21GB wink.gif Just move C:\Users and C:\ProgramData to another drive wink.gif

Those directories total around 4GB, which pales in comparison to the 16.5GB of C:\Windows. However, since I've installed large and rarely-used applications to another drive I still only use a bit under 23GB in total, including the more commonly-used and/or smaller applications.
    
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Those directories total around 4GB, which pales in comparison to the 16.5GB of C:\Windows. However, since I've installed large and rarely-used applications to another drive I still only use a bit under 23GB in total, including the more commonly-used and/or smaller applications.

I keep quite a lot in my Users Folder (Music, Documents, etc) so it made sense to move it. I've just done a fresh install and my Windows folder is 12GB, but the whole drive is around 21GB used and I haven't gotten around to installing my programs yet so that's bound to go up.
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I don't understand. So everyone in the world is going to be well versed in W8 their first time using it?
Where does it say it's a review?
Why is everyone so put off on listening to things people say? Regardless of their experience with the OS their comparisons between usability of W8 and W7 is solid and logical. There are many obvious steps backward solely because Microsoft wanted to utilize metro.

I'll listen to people who know what they are talking about.

Those guys had no idea almost how the system works.

If someone is going to be telling me about usability and doesn't actually know how to use something, I'm not going to be paying them any mind at all.

For instance, if I was to have been a person who had never used W8 before, I'd have been quite put off after watching their video. However, after spending a month or so using it solid, I can say that I'm quite glad I didn't listen to people like them (even though I did in the beginning).

Its nothing to do with wanting to listen to what others say or whatever, it's whether a person is actually able to give a subjective view based on knowledge and not a lack of it.

I cut off the video early due to the fact that it was quite obvious the people were never going to be able to provide either subjectivity or a knowledgeable insight into the operating system. Like I said, I actually watched on to give them a fair chance, only to see them putting up annotations asking for people to stop correcting them on mistakes based on what? The fact that they were giving opinions on how something works without knowing how it works. I stopped watching again.

"Step backs" is also opinion. Some like the steps. Some don't. Some don't even care. Nobody's opinion is the right one.
Edited by GrizzleBoy - 8/18/12 at 7:36am
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post #210 of 237
Some like the steps, most don't. That's a more accurate way of putting that.

Metro would be fine if it was optional.

I haven't seen a single argument that's won me over as it why Metro shouldn't be entirely optional on the desktop segment. Not one.

If someone can put together a good argument as to why it should be forced on us then I'm all ears
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