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Originally Posted by Newbie2009 View Post

Looks like that half a trillion dollars the FED sent New Zealand was not enough biggrin.gif
Nice one New Zealand!

just goes to show, money doesnt solve every problem, especially in a wealthy country.
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post #32 of 38
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It isn't just the terrorist definition part that's vague... what is reasonable belief supposed to mean?

Reasonable belief has a very specific definition in US law: belief that any reasonable person, under the same circumstances, assuming the same knowledge, and without the benefit of hindsight, would hold. It primarily applies to actions by law enforcement officers to preclude Monday morning quarterbacking. There is nothing vague about it.
    
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Reasonable belief has a very specific definition in US law: belief that any reasonable person, under the same circumstances, assuming the same knowledge, and without the benefit of hindsight, would hold. It primarily applies to actions by law enforcement officers to preclude Monday morning quarterbacking. There is nothing vague about it.

Define "any reasonable person"...

Using the word "reasonable" in a definition to try and define reasonable belief is not exactly giving a clear, concise explanation. I'd say it is actually rather vague.
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It just makes me feel so happy to see the US fail when it tries to reach outside of its own borders and impose.....
    
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I take it that this means any and all evidence found in Dotcom's home is now inadmissable, and all confiscated items removed must be returned to him?

I'm really glad that NZ didn't roll over on this one; no-one should be above the law, especially not those tasked with enforcing it.


Edit: Grammar
Edited by GingerJohn - 8/16/12 at 2:27pm
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Give him us back all his our stuff!

fixed biggrin.gif
 
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i bet Julian Assange is wishing he went to the New Zealand embassy now smile.gif
    
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I wonder if he would have been given a fair trial if he was to be extradited or if he would just be tossed in jail and left there to rot away.... seeing how the US handled this whole thing from the beginning it wouldn't suprise me.

That is not something they can do...

yes it is

See NDAA 2012 section 1031

also the NDAA is very vague; while the PATRIOT Act specifically says "terrorism" the NDAA states "belligerent actions" or something similar
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lol i bet they were like, hmm maybe we should have focused our man power on terrorism and pedophiles instead of listening to the MPAA

No money to be gained from pedos and terror. MPAA and RIAA pay big bucks. Good job New Zealand!

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