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Im waiting for 7950 price drops.
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it's a little faster in many games, thanks to running at much higher clock speeds, but it's not as well rounded a card. it isn't gonna give you any level of performance you can't get out of your 580 so there really is no benefit. if you can get on free then go ahead, but it isn't an upgrade, it's a side grade and in some areas a downgrade.

580 performance at, how many watts less consumed?

Sure I guess the small bus width makes people uneasy, but then when the 280 went from 512 bit to 384 on the 580, nobody seemed to mind.
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580 performance at, how many watts less consumed?
Sure I guess the small bus width makes people uneasy, but then when the 280 went from 512 bit to 384 on the 580, nobody seemed to mind.

Yep, I think people are focusing too much on the memory spec and not on the actual performance. It looks like a great card for the price. It also brought down the competition prices. Love the lower power draw.
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580 performance at, how many watts less consumed?

Sure I guess the small bus width makes people uneasy, but then when the 280 went from 512 bit to 384 on the 580, nobody seemed to mind.

irrelevant. and that jump was a worthy upgrade. the 660ti is a good choice for someone with a much weaker gpu or no gpu etc. people tend to bring up power consumption when it suite the moments random point and it's duly noted, but SharpShoot3r07's TX750 can handle a 580 or two with plenty of room to spare.

as for AMD's prices, has anybody else noticed that the 7870's went up in price yesterday? no longer a single one under $300 at major retailers. the 7950 too. $350 and up, when last week there were models going for $330 (some less with rebates/promo codes). a poor response from AMD to say the least.
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as for AMD's prices, has anybody else noticed that the 7870's went up in price yesterday? no longer a single one under $300 at major retailers. the 7950 too. $350 and up, when last week there were models going for $330 (some less with rebates/promo codes). a poor response from AMD to say the least.

Yeah, maybe AMD no longer felt the competition, so raised the prices? Or maybe that's just the retailer's doing. Anyway, the shop I go to just put their HIS 7950 IceQ Turbo on a sale for $299! Which is amazing for Australia, it's the price of the cheapest 7870! Unfortunately I spent all my money 2 weeks ago on a mousepad, wireless card and Xonar Pheobus :'(
Here's the link if anyone's interested: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1311&products_id=19857
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Yeah, maybe AMD no longer felt the competition, so raised the prices? Or maybe that's just the retailer's doing. Anyway, the shop I go to just put their HIS 7950 IceQ Turbo on a sale for $299! Which is amazing for Australia, it's the price of the cheapest 7870! Unfortunately I spent all my money 2 weeks ago on a mousepad, wireless card and Xonar Pheobus :'(
Here's the link if anyone's interested: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1311&products_id=19857

more likely the last money grab before a substantial (hopefully) price drop. that's a good deal for that 7950.
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580 performance at, how many watts less consumed?

Sure I guess the small bus width makes people uneasy, but then when the 280 went from 512 bit to 384 on the 580, nobody seemed to mind.

irrelevant. and that jump was a worthy upgrade. the 660ti is a good choice for someone with a much weaker gpu or no gpu etc. people tend to bring up power consumption when it suite the moments random point and it's duly noted, but SharpShoot3r07's TX750 can handle a 580 or two with plenty of room to spare.

as for AMD's prices, has anybody else noticed that the 7870's went up in price yesterday? no longer a single one under $300 at major retailers. the 7950 too. $350 and up, when last week there were models going for $330 (some less with rebates/promo codes). a poor response from AMD to say the least.

Really? I see 4 7870's under $300. Here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600286767%20600298540&IsNodeId=1&name=Radeon%20HD%207870%20GHz%20Edition
(sort by price, lowest first)

I also see a few 7950's right at around $320 or so:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600286767%20600286739&IsNodeId=1&name=Radeon%20HD%207950

You can still get the MSI Twin Frozr or the Gigabyte Windforce 7950 right at $330. Yeah, they're not on sale for $309 anymore, but the regular retail prices haven't gone up any at all. That goes for 7870's and 7950's. The retail prices are still exactly the same. Reason prices went up slightly is because newegg isn't having their blowout sales anymore right now. That Gigabyte Windforce 7950 was originally $360, it had like a $30 instant rebate and a $20 MIR on top of it, which made it $310.

So yeah, prices went up...but they only went up because certain sales ended.
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That's the 7970 GHz and the 590 and 690 are still faster wink.gif
And yes it's bad if a card get's cut $150 in the same generation (mind you, it was $549 at launch) at least MSRP, the actual price at e-tailers were even worse. Such a price cut is so bad that certain AIBs offered refunds in the time of the GTX 280 and 260 [1]. And no, it's not very usual for these major cuts to occur (at least not in the last 6 six years I checked the GPU industry). Typically this happens if a company underestimates the competition.
Last time this happened was because nVidia overestimated their "9900GTX" and "9900GTS" based on 3870 performance. Now the 7970 was one upped by the tiny GK104, good for customers bad for early adopters and not in a common fashion. I really don't get where you're going with this discussion, go do some research and you'll note that these price cuts are not very common within the same generation wink.gif

Number one the entire discussion was about resale value. And number again two is who cares?

The 400 dollar 7970 performs at worst like a 500 dollar 680 and you're acting like this is an issue.
    
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Really? I see 4 7870's under $300. Here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600286767%20600298540&IsNodeId=1&name=Radeon%20HD%207870%20GHz%20Edition
(sort by price, lowest first)

I also see a few 7950's right at around $320 or so:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600286767%20600286739&IsNodeId=1&name=Radeon%20HD%207950

You can still get the MSI Twin Frozr or the Gigabyte Windforce 7950 right at $330. Yeah, they're not on sale for $309 anymore, but the regular retail prices haven't gone up any at all. That goes for 7870's and 7950's. The retail prices are still exactly the same. Reason prices went up slightly is because newegg isn't having their blowout sales anymore right now. That Gigabyte Windforce 7950 was originally $360, it had like a $30 instant rebate and a $20 MIR on top of it, which made it $310.

So yeah, prices went up...but they only went up because certain sales ended.

yea that's what I mean. I've been denied enough rebates that I don't even count them most of the time. the way I see it, I'm still putting out $300 minimum for a mid range card and waiting 2-8 weeks for a small check in the mail. the night before the 660ti launch you could buy 4 7870's for $269.99, $279.99 and $289.99 and 2 7950's for $329.99 and $339.99 upfront on newegg. if anything, a uniform price drop is in order already. the 7950 I feel is fine where it is, but that 7870 is just unrealistically priced.

@jtom320: either way you slice it, the retail price went down $120 by the time they put out the ghz edition for $50 less then the original launch price. it's unprecedented.
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yea that's what I mean. I've been denied enough rebates that I don't even count them most of the time. the way I see it, I'm still putting out $300 minimum for a mid range card and waiting 2-8 weeks for a small check in the mail. the night before the 660ti launch you could buy 4 7870's for $269.99, $279.99 and $289.99 and 2 7950's for $329.99 and $339.99 upfront on newegg. if anything, a uniform price drop is in order already. the 7950 I feel is fine where it is, bu that 7870 is just unrealistically priced.
@jtom320: either way you slice it, the retail price went down $120 by the time they put out the ghz edition for $50 less then the original launch price. it's unprecedented.

It's definitely not unprecedented. And regardless the conversation was about re-sale value.
    
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