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I was hoping for some help here; I have my build almost complete save for a motherboard and a CPU cooler, and right when I was feeling like I had it down to maybe one or two selections on the motherboard, I read several threads on rather horrible RMA stories.

Now, I grant that all companies have bad times and good times, and that not all MOBO's fail, and that I'll likely get a good one and be fine for years. Although, I hate that feeling of dread that I won't be ok and I'll be out $200 and the use of my computer, maybe more cash if the RMA fails. I also am tired of waiting to build my computer, so this is rather frustrating. wha-smiley.png


I hear bad about lots of companies but the one standing out now is ASU; am I seeing this correctly?
I like the built-in wifi, dual CPU fan support, fan xpert2, advanced turbo mode for the ivy bridge, and the looks of the board, but the customer service sounds aweful. Problem is-- I'm not sure what board I could turn to that would be quite as nice and I really don't have the experience to weigh the risk against the benefit in this one.

I literally was going to buy the motherboard tonight since I have read reviews that it's a good board but I don't want to get screwed. Any advice to help me along? I read that EVGA is good on CS but I found one Z77 board and it's $100 more = no-go.

ASRock Extreme 6 looks great and I think a zalman single-fan CPU cooler would look great, but then I wanted motherboard-controlled fans on the case, so I don't have to throttle them myself. I don't know much about the MSI or Gigabyte competition yet, I haven't gotten that far. ph34r-smiley.gif
I do know that the ASRock and ASUS bios tend to be better, that's also important. User-friendliness (I'm not building this to keep forcing me to research as it gets confusing, I'd like it to work and make sense as much as possible)
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I say order the P8Z77-V Pro and if you get a defective one somehow, then RMA it through the store.  :)

 

I have seen the manuals for the competing boards from ASRock, Gigabyte and MSI, and the result is that I feel the P8Z77 series can be the best choice for the UEFI BIOS alone.

    
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Asus and Gigabyte have always been number 1 in my opinion.
Then MSI, AsRock, EVGA second.
Then everybody else.

The problem with Gigabyte board now is that fan control is broken on all but 2 fan headers on all but top boards. Besides that there is nothing else to complain about atm (UEFI bugs mostly fixed). They use very high quality components, digital vrm and 6+2 phases on their Z77 UD boards. They are great overclocking board.
Z77 UP series use IR3500 mosfets which provide 60A. Asus doesn't use them yet, and nobody else but EVGA and Gigabyte atm. Fan control problem is minor imho since fan controllers are relatively cheap now.

AsRock makes good boards in certain price ranges, but they use bad marketing tactics which I dislike. They lie about their VRM being digi on most(all?) Z77 board. Although it does not matter because analog VRM can be good, it is something to thing about.

MSI boards are known to have weak VRMs. G55/65/80 seem to be solid though.

Main engineers of EVGA left the team. Therefore, they had many problems on all after X58 boards. Z77 boards from them seem to be solid and get many good reviews.

Refer to this list for VRM.

I really hope this will help you to make the right decision thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

I say order the P8Z77-V Pro and if you get a defective one somehow, then RMA it through the store.  smile.gif

I have seen the manuals for the competing boards from ASRock, Gigabyte and MSI, and the result is that I feel the P8Z77 series can be the best choice for the UEFI BIOS alone.

That's part of what I've been seeing, although it sounded like ASRock had a decent yet slightly confusing BIOS, they don't offer great fan control.

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Originally Posted by DeXel View Post

Asus and Gigabyte have always been number 1 in my opinion.
Then MSI, AsRock, EVGA second.
Then everybody else. [...]
Refer to this list for VRM.
I really hope this will help you to make the right decision thumb.gif

From what I see (and what little I know about various components, it looks like ASUS has good offerings, at least better than ASRock. I'm reading a n AnandTech review on the main boards I've been looking at (it's the reason I picked these boards).

So far the ASUS seems to have what I want, and that's wireless and good UEFI that will support easy and mild overclocking (doubtful I will go there anytime soon but in the future perhaps, and why not since I did get the 3770k?)

I'll further consider the other boards but if I factor in the cost and setup of a wireless card and the loss of easy fan control for the main fans I would perhaps be less satisfied. I love that BIOS has finally become less boring and simple looking and the smart temp controls is a major plus.

I DO have a fan controller built into my NZXT phantom 410, but at $100 for the case I don't consider not using ti to be a big waste and I can still use it to throttle some fans if I need extra airflow I assume.
I might have to brave the ASUS, I'm sure there must be lots of good experiences with their RMA process, that just aren't reported online?

I suppose primarily, what exactly is the likelihood and cause of a MOBO failure after 30 days? Overclocking? other causes?. If I have to I'll let my PC fold or process for hours as much as possible to test the circuits in that 30 days, if that is a good idea. smile.gif
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That's part of what I've been seeing, although it sounded like ASRock had a decent yet slightly confusing BIOS, they don't offer great fan control.
From what I see (and what little I know about various components, it looks like ASUS has good offerings, at least better than ASRock. I'm reading a n AnandTech review on the main boards I've been looking at (it's the reason I picked these boards).
So far the ASUS seems to have what I want, and that's wireless and good UEFI that will support easy and mild overclocking (doubtful I will go there anytime soon but in the future perhaps, and why not since I did get the 3770k?)
I'll further consider the other boards but if I factor in the cost and setup of a wireless card and the loss of easy fan control for the main fans I would perhaps be less satisfied. I love that BIOS has finally become less boring and simple looking and the smart temp controls is a major plus.
I DO have a fan controller built into my NZXT phantom 410, but at $100 for the case I don't consider not using ti to be a big waste and I can still use it to throttle some fans if I need extra airflow I assume.
I might have to brave the ASUS, I'm sure there must be lots of good experiences with their RMA process, that just aren't reported online?
I suppose primarily, what exactly is the likelihood and cause of a MOBO failure after 30 days? Overclocking? other causes?. If I have to I'll let my PC fold or process for hours as much as possible to test the circuits in that 30 days, if that is a good idea. smile.gif

 

I say get the board that you think you'll be happiest with, and if for some reason you need to do an RMA, then do it with the store you bought it from.  If that's Newegg, then that's good.

 

However, I think the likelihood that you'll end up having to do an RMA is extremely small.  After all, we don't hear from the satisfied customers; just the unsatisfied ones, but ASUS has millions and millions of customers.

 

When you get the board, I recommend just using it as you plan on using it.  What I mean is, try to relax and enjoy the board as much as you can.  :)

    
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Thank you, I'll be buying from Amazon due to taxes and shipping bumping the cost of Newegg's offerings up. I did buy ram from them but surprisingly (to me) I was able to get all my other components aside from the ram and my monitors on Amazon and I get 2-day shipping or even overnight for only $4...

I've searched and found reviews about equal on either retailer so I'm going to go with Amazon most likely. I'll try to make a decision on the mobo tonight and then buy the CPU cooler in one swoop and have it by Saturday night to finish building on Sunday or thereabouts.

Thanks again for your help and I appreciate any and all opinions. My threads tend to be short but I feel like I'm getting good replies. Thank you all so much. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Schmuckley View Post

p8p67 pro,this board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138355

 

But he will have a 3770K.  So, it would be better to have a Z77 board.

 

Edit:  that's not the P8P67 Pro.

 

 

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Thank you, I'll be buying from Amazon due to taxes and shipping bumping the cost of Newegg's offerings up. I did buy ram from them but surprisingly (to me) I was able to get all my other components aside from the ram and my monitors on Amazon and I get 2-day shipping or even overnight for only $4...
I've searched and found reviews about equal on either retailer so I'm going to go with Amazon most likely. I'll try to make a decision on the mobo tonight and then buy the CPU cooler in one swoop and have it by Saturday night to finish building on Sunday or thereabouts.
Thanks again for your help and I appreciate any and all opinions. My threads tend to be short but I feel like I'm getting good replies. Thank you all so much. smile.gif

 

You're very welcome.

 

I must admit that if this were my build, then I'd get the P8Z77-V Pro.  I absolutely love my P8P67 EVO.  I've seen manuals for many other P67 boards, Z68 boards, and now Z77 boards (just from trying to help people on here), and the P8Z77 series looks like it would be just as nice as the P8P67 series, only better.  Looks and features aside, I think my favorite thing has to be their UEFI BIOS.


Edited by TwoCables - 8/16/12 at 6:43pm
    
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But he will have a 3770K.  So, it would be better to have a Z77 board.

Edit:  that's not the P8P67 Pro.

Haha, I was wondering what was going on here. I glanced at Biostar but have yet to see it pushed into the running with the p8z77-v pro.
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You're very welcome.

I must admit that if this were my build, then I'd get the P8Z77-V Pro.  I absolutely love my P8P67 EVO.  I've seen manuals for many other P67 boards, Z68 boards, and now Z77 boards (just from trying to help people on here), and the P8Z77 series looks like it would be just as nice as the P8P67 series, only better.  Looks and features aside, I think my favorite thing has to be their UEFI BIOS.

awesome to hear. I'll give it more thought and read some more reviews on the ups and downs but for my first build I think as long as the board is ok in that 30 days it sounds like a good option. I can't speak from experience that ASUS is horrible in CS so...I suppose I can give them a chance. If anything in the future I can help fight for better RMA claims if I must (or just bite the bullet and put a few days work into another, better board).

Any opinions still appreciated, I'm feeling less distressed and I can likely pick one by tomorrow.
Edited by Figit090 - 8/16/12 at 6:47pm
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I've got my P8Z77-V PRO and it runs smoothly and no problems have occured. It's a very good board and is very high quality. Got mine at Frys and I can easily return it.

The chances of getting a DOA motherboard or a motherboard that fails is somewhat...small. Not many people have failed motherboards, unless they tinker with it or something.
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