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Like I mentioned before, the only guarantee you'll get is that it'll run at advertised speeds. Basically, with a TOP, you'll get a chip that's selected to run at TOP speeds (as advertised). How far you can go above that is still random. When you get a non-TOP, you'll get a chip that will run at non-TOP speeds (as advertised, but it's reference speed so there's probably no selection process at all). Again, how far you can go above that is still random.
Having said that, the gap between the TOP and non-TOP is relatively small, meaning that many non-TOP chips will be able to fill the gap (even more so, if Asus would have tested these tips on TOP cards they would have passed the test). But there's simply no guarantee that you will reach these TOP speeds, no matter how high the chance is that you will.
Given the randomness involved, there's definitely a probability that a random non-TOP runs faster than a random TOP, but because of the selection process, the TOP should have a higher chance of being the (slightly) faster running card.
Keep in mind though, that we're talking max a few frames difference between worst case and best case scenarios (of which some is only relevant if you're overclocking). If you decide to go Asus, and if you cannot find a TOP easily available and at a reasonable price, I wouldn't worry too much about it and just get a non-TOP.

The TOP and non-TOP are actually available in out country but the TOP costs about $480. I haven't researched about the price of the non-TOP. So if I decide to go with ASUS, I'm still contemplating on those two. I can also wait for Black Friday in the US to see the prices. Is there a new TOP or are they only old TOPs that are flashed with the new fixed BIOS?
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The TOP and non-TOP are actually available in out country but the TOP costs about $480. I haven't researched about the price of the non-TOP. So if I decide to go with ASUS, I'm still contemplating on those two. I can also wait for Black Friday in the US to see the prices. Is there a new TOP or are they only old TOPs that are flashed with the new fixed BIOS?

My guess is that a non-TOP will be a lot cheaper than that, it's like 420 @ Newegg (but maybe prices are just higher where you live anyway, I wouldn't know about that). Anyway, if it's really a 60 dollar price difference, I would definitely take the non-TOP.

I did some more research and there is actually no clarity whatsoever regarding the production status of the TOP model. It seems to me they aren't producing it any more, probably because of all the issues they had in the past. I guess the best assumption to make would be that if you order a TOP, you'll get an 'old' top that either has the new bios flashed by Asus because it was returned or something, or that you would still have to flash the new bios to yourself (if you have issues that is). It doesn't seem to me that there are models out there that come with the new bios brand new out of the factory.

TBH, I would just take the non-TOP. Smaller risk of issues and probably a better price (and IF you ever want to go SLI you'd have no problem finding a second one). Plenty of FPS to enjoy anyway, even at stock.

Waiting for 'Black Friday' might be an idea, but I have no idea how high discounts will be as I have no experience with the concept in any way as a Dutch guy wink.gif.

(I got lucky in terms of overclocking and I'm doing better than many TOPs out there)
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i have evga 660 ftw signature 2 3gb with somehow 1180mhz boost clock, tough it should be 1137. anyway its great. on gamers-debate i red that 660 ftw is like 7,5% more gpu power than 660 stock, so who knows it might equal 660ti, it does perform incredibly.

ultra details bf3 35-62fps (64player mp) avg 42-45 on 1080@60Hz, or 54-62fps (16player mp-i prefer it as i earn more points for flags since there are less players:) ),
skyrim 60-80fps, 67+avg with all ultra 8xmsaa enb and high texture mods. Tough never reached over 2gb vram,
will have to try crysis 2 with texture pack.
far cry 3 and assasins creed 3 have installed but didnot started. I switched to nvidia as with amd there was far cry 3 given away and i already bought the insane edition smile.gif

also my systems power usage went down from using 5750 in idle 86W to 66W, to rise under load from 136 to 226W with 660ftw

yes i do have buyers remorse, but since i have q9550 @ stock, dont plan to oc or change platform and i get 95% both gpu and cpu usage in bf3 it would not make sense to step up to 660ti or to 670. pricewise it would be going from 235eur card to 305eur or even 375+eur card just for 5-6fps (45v 52/60 fps). again i dont oc so not much again and i play primarly on 16 player maps to earn more points smile.gif

anyway next 2 years we have only gta v if ever, crysis 3, just cause 3, bf4 to come. the card should suffice, worst case scenario i go down from 8msaa to 4 or 2 to keep 60fps

my buddy plays cs go on high details on my 2,75 yo retired 5750 smile.gif

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