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So I'm here because I'm stuck and this will be verbose as I like to be as explicit as possible.

So, yes. The computer is crashing, and I'm not sure why but it is crashing in an interesting way. So I will admit most hardware is 3+ years old and that could be part of the problem as this thing has spent its watercooled life around 4gHz. And all components are correctly listed in my sig. Problem is that I start the computer and it will only boot not in an overclock but stock form. And when it does boot it goes into Windows and locks up. When I try to reboot it wont go into Windows at all before lock up. Try again and it'll get stuck in POST. Try again and it wont even POST. So you see every time I try I keep losing time during the boot up. Unless I let the computer sit for a bit and then it is OK again to restart this cycle. I did get into the BIOS after letting it sit for a bit and I"m looking at the PC Health Status under Phoenix AwardBIOS. Here is what I see:

ATX +3.3V Voltage 3.28
ATX +5.0V Voltage 5.11
ATX +12 V Voltage 11.77
5V Standby Voltage 4.95
Voltage Battery 3.29
Cpu CORE Temperature 20C
CHIPSET Temperature 33C
PWM AREA Temperature 27C

Reason I put that up is I'm wondering if it might be the power supply. It isn't the hard drive as given the chance it goes happily to windows. I doubt it is the graphics card as it sends no error beeps, the fan is on, it happily sits in windows, etc. I'm thinking it is the RAM, Mobo, or CPU. Mainly the Mobo as there isn't one specific point where this thing always stops booting up. I get various debugging codes off the motherboard's display depending on how far into the boot up I get. That said while I'd rather not have to spend the money on those items it is also time for an upgrade so I am willing to drop the $$$ to replace all of those.

Problem for me really comes back to that power supply. If that IS the issue than I'd rather replace that and not chase my tail around forever. So what do you guys think the issue is here? What do you think would cause this kind of strange boot/crash scenario?

And as always I thank you all ahead of time for your help. thumb.gif
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Being that the PSU is possibly 3+ year old Thermaltake Purepower, I'm willing to bet that this is the culprit.  Here's more information to show why I think so:

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/652549/on-thermaltake-psus/0_100

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Well now I look like an idiot. I'll update that power supply ASAP in my sig. I actually have a 2 year old 750W Corsair Power Supply. 750HX Professional Series. Funny, though. That Thermaltake DID die on me 2 years ago. That thing by now would have been 6 years old and I'd have gone straight there as the issue if it were still installed.

My apologies but I will read the link you gave me.
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The link is just to a short discussion on Thermaltake power supplies.

 

So now that I know you have an HX750, all I can ask now is:  does it do this with the Q9450 at stock?

 

Edit:  Now that I know you have the HX750, I'm stumped.

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Does the +12 Voltage seem a little low at 11.77? It stayed around that only fluctuating +/- .02V here and there.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slipstream808 View Post

Does the +12 Voltage seem a little low at 11.77? It stayed around that only fluctuating +/- .02V here and there.

 

No, it's actually within the ATX spec of ±5% (±0.60 V), which means it can range from 11.40V to 12.60V.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX

 

How long has it been crashing like this?  I hope it hasn't been doing it since the Purepower died.

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Though it may well be the psu ( a psu tester would be handy ), could it possibly be the BIOs battery ( cmos penny shaped one ) ??? Is it possible that it has nigh on run out of juice so to speak and cause these probs. Im only saying because i had an old Asus built system that acted weirdly just like you describe and it was the onboard battery, which i replaced and it was fine. Just a thought !!
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I was thinking it my the battery. I'll get a new one then.

This specific problem started last night. I woke up and the computer was died. I didn't even get to say goodbye *sniff*. tongue.gif
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Well i really hope it is something as simple as the battery, sometimes the most complicated appearing problems are. I know how emotional it must be for you at this time tongue.gif
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post #10 of 11
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Well I bought some new batteries and a PSU tester online. Hopefully those will help. And I'll be out of town on a shoot for a few days so I cant use my PC anyways so I should be OK for now.
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