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8/16/12 at 10:08am
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So we are setting up a basement for our home theater and would like some recommendations to you audiophiles and would appreciate useful information...

So far we have a 720p projector going onto a 120" screen in the basement with a wide room of approximately 20ft x 30ft and pretty low ceiling and already built in speaker holders for the two front speakers... We just need suggestions for audio...

As a beginners package, we checked this out...
http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-HT-S3500-5-1-Channel-Theater-Receiver/dp/B0077V88V8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1345135771&sr=8-2&keywords=home+theatre

only 110 watts, but the receiver includes 4HDMI inputs which will be useful because the only wires running into the projector will be one HDMI and a power cord...

What do you all think? Is this descent for the price as I have Amazon Prime, or can you all come up with a much better recommendation...
Our budget would be around $500 shipped and any feedback would be appreciated...
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8/16/12 at 10:18am
hard to complain about that setup for the money. You could piece something together better for $500 of course
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8/16/12 at 10:35am
It seems like a huge room to fill with just that. Even at $500, a half decent receiver will take up half the budget. If it were me and I had a room that big, I'd use more money on a better receiver and go yard sale hunting for big box speakers. It doesn't seem ideal and I don't think i've ever recommended something like that, but with a room that large, I wouldn't hesitate to use some big speakers with 12" drivers or so.
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8/16/12 at 10:40am
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It seems like a huge room to fill with just that. Even at $500, a half decent receiver will take up half the budget. If it were me and I had a room that big, I'd use more money on a better receiver and go yard sale hunting for big box speakers. It doesn't seem ideal and I don't think i've ever recommended something like that, but with a room that large, I wouldn't hesitate to use some big speakers with 12" drivers or so.
does a receiver make that big of a difference compared to high end speakers? I ask since I will be doing a home theater setup in a couple months too
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I may be wrong on this but I think the receiver's power output should more or less closely match the speakers rated power. If you hook up a really weak amplifier to some powerful speakers, it will struggle to drive them properly. I've only experienced this firsthand by hooking up headphones to more powerful amps and have seen improvements mostly in bass definition and strength. Probably this is also the case for speakers.
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8/16/12 at 11:24am
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does a receiver make that big of a difference compared to high end speakers? I ask since I will be doing a home theater setup in a couple months too
You will need a good receiver for high end speakers... They have amps built in to power the speakers... And they do make a difference from other setups that i've heard...

+reps...
Another question, we have this projector 'Dell M410HD', 1280x800 resolution and supposedly 3d... how would we get this to work?
I saw a comment
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"I understand for these 3D projectors you need a PC with quad buffered graphics card, "Active" 3D glasses with DLP Link, 3D content (app software to include OpenGL or DirectX), & of course the 3D projector."

the 3D isn't a big deal, as this will be mostly for movies and watching football on Sundays with a few friends over... Just thought i'd try it out.

Has anyone recently purchased their home theater system and know of any better deals than the one I listed above?
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8/16/12 at 11:31am
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does a receiver make that big of a difference compared to high end speakers? I ask since I will be doing a home theater setup in a couple months too

Depending on what you consider "high end" you will need better equipment to make the best out of everything. If you buy speakers that cost $500 each, a $200 receiver might not make the most sense. It might not be able to push them properly. It's just a balancing act between speaker budget and components budget. I haven't bought a piece of audio gear in years. I still use the same receiver that I bought in 03 or so. I paid about $1200 for the receiver and about $1500 on speakers. The receiver might have been more than I needed at the time, but I upgraded speakers and to this date i'm still using the same receiver.
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normally the 3D part is pretty easy to get running. When I've connected my Asus 3D display via HDMI to my PS3 system it detected a 3D capable display. 3D settings in games were available and it just worked. Its probably the same with projectors.

As for the glasses, the manual for your projector is a little lacking. It says you need DLP Link glasses and enable the 3D stuff in the projectors menu (pg 33). A little research turned out that DLP Link syncs the shutter glasses by quick invisible white flashes in the image between the frames so any DLP Link compatible glasses should get you going. Wikipedia also said that cheap glasses don't manage to suppress these white flashes too well so your black levels will suffer, no idea how bad it is though.
Might be important for my next cinema setup too so I'm anxious to read about your results smile.gif
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8/16/12 at 9:03pm
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Thanks for the useful information... Got the projector screen in and pin tacked it to the wall, and this is measured at 124" diagonal... and much bigger that we expected... Here are some pics and the guy here is 5'11"...



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I may be wrong on this but I think the receiver's power output should more or less closely match the speakers rated power. If you hook up a really weak amplifier to some powerful speakers, it will struggle to drive them properly. I've only experienced this firsthand by hooking up headphones to more powerful amps and have seen improvements mostly in bass definition and strength. Probably this is also the case for speakers.

Your receiver or amp isnt or doesnt necessarily have to MATCH your speakers rated wattage. Speakers have wattage ratings of RMS and MAX. Rms is continuous which you ideally want to give them. Max is of course what it sounds like. You arent going to damage speakers with too much power, its distortion or the lack of power that can damage them, at high volumes. All receivers on the market are going to give you a rated wattage (700x7 for example). That particular receiver IS NOT going to give you that power when you drive more than two speakers with it.

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You will need a good receiver for high end speakers... They have amps built in to power the speakers... And they do make a difference from other setups that i've heard...
+reps...
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I saw a comment
the 3D isn't a big deal, as this will be mostly for movies and watching football on Sundays with a few friends over... Just thought i'd try it out.
Has anyone recently purchased their home theater system and know of any better deals than the one I listed above?

You dont actually have to have high end power for high end speakers, of course im not sure what you consider high end. A receiver amp is not going to give you the true power you need to drive a speaker. If you want to really get the power you desire, you need to go seperates. pre/pro, amp, then speakers.

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So we are setting up a basement for our home theater and would like some recommendations to you audiophiles and would appreciate useful information...
So far we have a 720p projector going onto a 120" screen in the basement with a wide room of approximately 20ft x 30ft and pretty low ceiling and already built in speaker holders for the two front speakers... We just need suggestions for audio...
As a beginners package, we checked this out...
http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-HT-S3500-5-1-Channel-Theater-Receiver/dp/B0077V88V8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1345135771&sr=8-2&keywords=home+theatre
only 110 watts, but the receiver includes 4HDMI inputs which will be useful because the only wires running into the projector will be one HDMI and a power cord...
What do you all think? Is this descent for the price as I have Amazon Prime, or can you all come up with a much better recommendation...
Our budget would be around $500 shipped and any feedback would be appreciated...

I think I would stay away from HTIB. If you are on a budget, go for it. You wont ever get the quality you can get from piecing together a good system.
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