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Ok, I was given an old Compaq Presario V2000 Laptop (single core, 2 gigs RAM, crap for video, great screen resolution, 100gig hard drive) for free. It had XP on it but was in need of a fresh install. I saw this as a perfect time to install linux on one of my machines for the first time.

I have been searching google but I am not even sure what terms to use I'm so new to linux. Here is how it all went down.

Had a problem with it freezing on install. Found a fix, on the menu screen of the start up CD I had to blacklist my wifi card(on board card) to get the install running smooth. Then I had to black list it again after the install was completed. I made an attempt to try to get it to work but honestly that was a lost cause. I found a USB wifi adapter that was Plug n Play though.

That was all in the last day or so. I have been playing around with it and I have fallen head over heels for ubuntu but still have absolutely no comprehension of whats going on(about 4-5 hours of time spent on it so far, most of it loading screens for install). Here are some things I am trying to sort out if anyone would care to lend a hand

1) video playback is pretty tacky. I susspect its a driver issue? I disabled hardware acceleration some but it still is pretty bad, even for an under powerd laptop. Anyone have a good noob friendly clickly on ubuntu and GPU optimization?

2) Wifi Adapter blacklist fix. I found a cheap fix of using a USB adapter to get around this but would like to use the on board adapter for two reasons. First I want to learn how to work ubuntu and second I just don't like USB wifi adapter's on laptops.. Count down till I smash it off(by accident) Again, noob friendly clickly please redface.gif I'm very windows savy but feel a little... "slow" on ubuntu if you know what i mean lots of new term's and such.

3) basic Optimization Ubuntu. pretty self explanatory but here goes. After I install windows(pick a flavor) I trim the fat(like most all of you do). I don't even know where to begin with ubuntu. All I want out of this guy is internet browsing, video/movie watching (netflix, youtube and maybe stream from personal collection), basic word and spread sheet's and similar boring activity's, I'm also teaching myself programming and would like to be able to take my current projects with me to continue working on them while traveling and such. I feel this step is very important as this lap top is slow, in the 1.8Ghz range.. I'll overclock i later smile.gif

That's it, I'm still google searching everything I can but most of it goes over my head, Took me about 45 min to find the terminal...... I don't mind teaching myself at all but some direction would be lovely. Thanks smile.gif
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3 is pretty useless if you start with Ubuntu. You're basically starting with one of the single most bloated Distro's. For that you'd be better off starting with a Debian netinstall which starts you with quite a bit less.

Also, there's no netflix on Linux.
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For your graphics, type driver into the menu and it should pop up with a "Install proprietary drivers" or something like that. Click it and you should be able to install the graphics drivers for your gpu with that fairly easily. If that' doesn't work it might be slightly more difficult to do. IF driver doesn't get you to the right thing, simply open up a terminal, and type in "sudo jockey-gtk" and that will open up the thing I'm trying to get you to.

For the wireless card, you might be able to get that working by using windows wireless drivers, just type in wireless into the menu and hopefully that will find the wireless driver auto installer. I don't actually have 12.04 installed right now so I'm not 100% sure I know how to get to each of the programs. I'm assuming the menu has a search function? (usually you just start typing and it'll start searching for you)

As has been stated above, ubuntu can be considered bloated, but it's only bloated to make as many things as possible work out of the box. I feel like Mint linux is a bit better but it too suffers from similar problems because it's based off of ubuntu. (You could try Linux Mint Debian) But for now I'd probably recommend just sticking with Ubuntu for the most user friendly experience. (Mint in my opinion is easier but probably not by enough to warrant change. if you do, consider LInux Mint 13 mate as an incredibly solid os)
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As to the wireless, we'd need the chipset to be able to tell you where to begin. As a good majority are already in the kernel and you just need firmware for them. But the others we need need to know the chipset and model.

So open up a terminal and type lspci and post the output here. You should get something along the lines of
Quote:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 07)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1a.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 02)
00:1a.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 02)
00:1a.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 92)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M LPC Interface Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801IBM/IEM (ICH9M/ICH9M-E) 4 port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
02:01.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ba)
02:01.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 04)
02:01.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 21)
09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5761e Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10)
0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
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3 is pretty useless if you start with Ubuntu. You're basically starting with one of the single most bloated Distro's. For that you'd be better off starting with a Debian netinstall which starts you with quite a bit less.
Also, there's no netflix on Linux.

My understanding was that Ubuntu would be a decent platform for me to learn in, I was also given a PC for free, I'll get to installing Debian netinstall after google searching about it. Thanks for the tip. So am I to understand there is nothing I can do to lighten up Ubuntu for this little laptop?

Shame there is no netflix on ubuntu, Fortunatly I have a somewhat large media collection that should do just fine. Thanks again.

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For your graphics, type driver into the menu and it should pop up with a "Install proprietary drivers" or something like that. Click it and you should be able to install the graphics drivers for your gpu with that fairly easily. If that' doesn't work it might be slightly more difficult to do. IF driver doesn't get you to the right thing, simply open up a terminal, and type in "sudo jockey-gtk" and that will open up the thing I'm trying to get you to.
For the wireless card, you might be able to get that working by using windows wireless drivers, just type in wireless into the menu and hopefully that will find the wireless driver auto installer. I don't actually have 12.04 installed right now so I'm not 100% sure I know how to get to each of the programs. I'm assuming the menu has a search function? (usually you just start typing and it'll start searching for you)
As has been stated above, ubuntu can be considered bloated, but it's only bloated to make as many things as possible work out of the box. I feel like Mint linux is a bit better but it too suffers from similar problems because it's based off of ubuntu. (You could try Linux Mint Debian) But for now I'd probably recommend just sticking with Ubuntu for the most user friendly experience. (Mint in my opinion is easier but probably not by enough to warrant change. if you do, consider LInux Mint 13 mate as an incredibly solid os)

Alright, I had to use the terminal method you outlined and this is what it gave me:
(jockey-gtk:3995): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_render_icon_pixbuf: assertion `icon_set != NULL' failed

(jockey-gtk:3995): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_render_icon_pixbuf: assertion `icon_set != NULL' failed

I'll check out the disro's you suggested. After lots of google searching and compair/contrast with the above mentioned distro's I'll start in on one of them:) Thanks.

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As to the wireless, we'd need the chipset to be able to tell you where to begin. As a good majority are already in the kernel and you just need firmware for them. But the others we need need to know the chipset and model.
So open up a terminal and type lspci and post the output here. You should get something along the lines of

Ok, I followed your instructions and did a little bit of google searching, seems there lots of others have had the same issue as I have with the wifi, directions for fixing the problems are all for linux literate though lol.

Here is the output you requested.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS480 Host Bridge (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS480 PCI Bridge
00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI IXP SB400 USB Host Controller
00:13.1 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI IXP SB400 USB Host Controller
00:13.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller
00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 11)
00:14.1 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI IXP SB400 IDE Controller
00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge
00:14.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge
00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:14.6 Modem: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI IXP SB400 AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 02)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)
05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
05:09.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCIxx21/x515 Cardbus Controller
05:09.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
05:09.3 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller
05:09.4 SD Host controller: Texas Instruments PCI6411/6421/6611/6621/7411/7421/7611/7621 Secure Digital Controller

Thank all of you for your help so far. I'm really liking ubuntu more and more.
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You can lighten Ubuntu and remove unnecessary stuff, but it's kind of working backwards. Why start with something that provides everything only to remove a good chunk of it, instead start with something that provides the bare minimum and work your way up. Debian is nice because the majority of stuff you've learned in Ubuntu will transfer over relatively flawlessy, and it only provides you with what you need to start with.

But really there's not much need to remove stuff unless you're low on disk space as nothing loads unless you tell it too ( aside from Daemons / Modules that are set to autostart ).



@ Network, have you tried installing the b43-fwcutter package as per these instructions?
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You can lighten Ubuntu and remove unnecessary stuff, but it's kind of working backwards. Why start with something that provides everything only to remove a good chunk of it, instead start with something that provides the bare minimum and work your way up. Debian is nice because the majority of stuff you've learned in Ubuntu will transfer over relatively flawlessy, and it only provides you with what you need to start with.
But really there's not much need to remove stuff unless you're low on disk space as nothing loads unless you tell it too ( aside from Daemons / Modules that are set to autostart ).
@ Network, have you tried installing the b43-fwcutter package as per these instructions?

ok, Thanks. I won't worry about lightening ubuntu, I'll load ubuntu on the old Dell Desktop I have (its a real POS) and will install a lighter version on the laptop.

The link you gave did the charm. I had followed a few different how too's to try to install the firmware but non of them worked. his guide did. Thank you so much!

Now all that is left is to sort out the GPU driver's. Thank you guys alot!
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If you want to get a "lighter" install of anything then you'll have to spend more time learning about it to get it going. Ubuntu can be basically built from the ground up if you want from HERE but you'll need to know what you are doing and I recommend a hardline internet connection to get it going. Another method to get an "easier" (you mean more convenient actually) buntu that you can "control" would be to grab Bodhi and then throw on what you want from there.
     
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If you want to get a "lighter" install of anything then you'll have to spend more time learning about it to get it going. Ubuntu can be basically built from the ground up if you want from HERE but you'll need to know what you are doing and I recommend a hardline internet connection to get it going. Another method to get an "easier" (you mean more convenient actually) buntu that you can "control" would be to grab Bodhi and then throw on what you want from there.

I don't mean easy, or more controllable. The laptop is lacking in therms of computing power, so I want to uninstall/disable/remove any thing that might be running in the back ground to sap computing power. Just so its a little zippy. You know like "Sean's Win 7 optimization" only for ubuntu.

I'll check out the link you gave but I fear your right. I might need to learn alot more of what ubuntu is about before I can do all that smile.gif Thanks for the info you supplied.
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I don't mean easy, or more controllable. The laptop is lacking in therms of computing power, so I want to uninstall/disable/remove any thing that might be running in the back ground to sap computing power. Just so its a little zippy. You know like "Sean's Win 7 optimization" only for ubuntu.
I'll check out the link you gave but I fear your right. I might need to learn alot more of what ubuntu is about before I can do all that smile.gif Thanks for the info you supplied.

I'm providing a guide on it as well (at the end of this post) but I think the installer of the buntu minimal might end up being more convenient for you than going the Arch (which I would still recommend as an option) route. And while everyone talks about buntu and it's off spring sapping power...considering that now (recent KDE updates have improved things) my netbook (single core Atom N450) can run Kubuntu (which is supposedly the worst bloater of buntu spins) I can't imagine just how crippled a machine a person would need to really feel pinched.

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RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
4GBs of Adata 1333 Kingston HyperX 3k 120GB WD Caviar Black 500GB Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
LG 8X BDR (WHL08S20) Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Kubuntu x64 Windows 7 x64 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Bodhi Linux x64 Acer G215H (1920x1080) Seasonic 520 HAF912 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
N450 1.8GHz AC and 1.66GHz batt ASUS proprietary for 1001P GMA3150 (can play bluray now!?) 1GB DDR2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSOS
160GB LGLHDLBDRE32X Bodhi Linux Fedora LXDE 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Kubuntu SLAX 1280x600 + Dell 15inch Excellent! 
PowerCase
6 cells=6-12hrs and a charger 1001P MU17 Black 
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CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core m3-6Y30 Intel HD515 8GB 1866DDR3L Micron M600 MTFDDAV256MBF M.2, 256 GB 
CoolingOSOSMonitor
Fanless Win10 Home x64 Kubuntu 16.04 (requires Linux kernel 4.5/4.6) 13.3 inch 16:9, 1920x1080 pixel, AU Optronics A... 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AthlonIIX4 640 3.62GHz (250x14.5) 2.5GHz NB Asus M4A785TD-M EVO MSI GTX275 (Stock 666) 8GBs of GSkill 1600 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
4GBs of Adata 1333 Kingston HyperX 3k 120GB WD Caviar Black 500GB Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
LG 8X BDR (WHL08S20) Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Kubuntu x64 Windows 7 x64 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Bodhi Linux x64 Acer G215H (1920x1080) Seasonic 520 HAF912 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
N450 1.8GHz AC and 1.66GHz batt ASUS proprietary for 1001P GMA3150 (can play bluray now!?) 1GB DDR2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSOS
160GB LGLHDLBDRE32X Bodhi Linux Fedora LXDE 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Kubuntu SLAX 1280x600 + Dell 15inch Excellent! 
PowerCase
6 cells=6-12hrs and a charger 1001P MU17 Black 
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