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Hey, I'm looking for a new laptop, which I can use for Gaming and school. Nothing really "special" since I already got a good station.
I have been looking at:

http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/satellite/P850/P850-ST2GX2/
GPU: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-640m/specifications

http://www.mikesquarter.com/asus-k55vm-review-1614/
GPU: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-630m/specifications

The main game it should be able to run "ok", would be World of Warcraft/MMORPG/I need a high FPS. I know it's limited how good it can run WoW and have a high FPS in it with the settings high. Though the 640M seems to be better then the 630M, but from a test at http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-630M.63761.0.html it looks like the 630M runs World Of Warcraft better then http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-640M.71579.0.html

Hope you can help me out, and I'm up for any other suggestions/laptops you can recommend, but around the 1000 Dollars, since I don't need some thing more.
post #2 of 8
Why do you need a gaming laptop if you have a gaming desktop? I spent more on my laptop thinking I would use it for games, but then I never have, and it was a huge waste.
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I would go with anything with a GTS 650M or 7670M. for some pretty good gaming. No more, or else you will have a battery hog.
http://www.avadirect.com/gaming-laptop-configurator.asp?PRID=24371 Add windows, also, in the config section.
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I would avoid Toshiba, their laptops have been terrible for a while now. And Asus laptops fell behind on specs as well.


Sager (670m) - http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.php?page=product_info&model_name=NP9130

Or an Alienware m14 if you want the Really nice backlit keyboard (but a 650m)

http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-m14x-r2/pd.aspx?ref=1701shopNow

Or an HP dv6t

(Get the i7, Upgrade the screen, 750GB 7200rpm drive and backlit keyboard
http://shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Laptops/HP-Pavilion/C0L25AV?HP-Pavilion-dv6t-7000-Select-Edition-Entertainment-Notebook-PC)
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I would avoid Toshiba, their laptops have been terrible for a while now. And Asus laptops fell behind on specs as well.
Sager (670m) - http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.php?page=product_info&model_name=NP9130
Or an Alienware m14 if you want the Really nice backlit keyboard (but a 650m)
http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-m14x-r2/pd.aspx?ref=1701shopNow
Or an HP dv6t
(Get the i7, Upgrade the screen, 750GB 7200rpm drive and backlit keyboard
http://shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Laptops/HP-Pavilion/C0L25AV?HP-Pavilion-dv6t-7000-Select-Edition-Entertainment-Notebook-PC)

Okay, I have no idea where you got the notion that Toshiba AND Asus laptops were behind spec, or terrible at all, but really... you need a wake-up call. rolleyes.gif I swear, do your research before you post before you sound like some random naysayer.

Toshiba and Asus are actually quite up to date. I've owned the Toshiba Qosmio and I've got friends who own the Asus G75 at the moment and I never had one problem with the Qosmio. My friend had an Asus machine before the G75 he has now and it just died after four years of heavy gaming use.

The fact that you think that HP is better than Asus AND Toshiba, again, really says something about your supposed "knowledge". rolleyes.gif Also, I wouldn't recommend an Alienware. For the price, you can get better. Even if you get a deal with coupons, the software is a pain that I wouldn't call upon anyone. For instance, my M17x R2 has had two OS corruptions that were induced by the Command Center software that's required to be installed if you want the warranty or if you want control over the backlit keyboard, and required an OS reinstall both times. I've lost so much stuff from this piece of garbage. Performance is wicked when it works, but... I'll stop right there otherwise I won't stop at all. >_>

I'd go for a G75 if you want a solid machine. Either that or a Toshiba Qosmio X875. The GTX 660M is better than the 670M for various reasons. Foremost is due to the lower power draw and the other is due to Kepler's advancements with DX11 tweaking. The 660M is better in DX11 environments than the 670M. The Sager is an okay pick, but only if you get something more advanced, like the 7970M or 680M.
     
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If you want to maintain high battery life and get some performance, I think a GT 650m based notebook would be a good choice, I would suggest configuring a Sager NP6165 for a 15.6" or an Sager NP6175 for a 17". they both contain the GT 650m. Or you could step up to a 660m in the Sager NP6370 which is a newly released 17" notebook.

other than that, take a look at a lenovo Y580 series notebook, they also come equipped with a gtx 660m. although I don't know if they have optimus built in. The GTX 660m seems to be a good power/battery compromise, as its the new kepler tech, and runs cooler than previous generation gpus.

The Asus g75 is a good recommendation for a 17" notebook as well, I just dont know if it will hit the $1000 mark, I also, for some reason, think that they don't have optimus in all models, Imglidinhere might be able to clarify that part if he comes back around.
     
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Okay, I have no idea where you got the notion that Toshiba AND Asus laptops were behind spec, or terrible at all, but really... you need a wake-up call. rolleyes.gif I swear, do your research before you post before you sound like some random naysayer.
Toshiba and Asus are actually quite up to date. I've owned the Toshiba Qosmio and I've got friends who own the Asus G75 at the moment and I never had one problem with the Qosmio. My friend had an Asus machine before the G75 he has now and it just died after four years of heavy gaming use.
The fact that you think that HP is better than Asus AND Toshiba, again, really says something about your supposed "knowledge". rolleyes.gif Also, I wouldn't recommend an Alienware. For the price, you can get better. Even if you get a deal with coupons, the software is a pain that I wouldn't call upon anyone. For instance, my M17x R2 has had two OS corruptions that were induced by the Command Center software that's required to be installed if you want the warranty or if you want control over the backlit keyboard, and required an OS reinstall both times. I've lost so much stuff from this piece of garbage. Performance is wicked when it works, but... I'll stop right there otherwise I won't stop at all. >_>
I'd go for a G75 if you want a solid machine. Either that or a Toshiba Qosmio X875. The GTX 660M is better than the 670M for various reasons. Foremost is due to the lower power draw and the other is due to Kepler's advancements with DX11 tweaking. The 660M is better in DX11 environments than the 670M. The Sager is an okay pick, but only if you get something more advanced, like the 7970M or 680M.

The reason why I suggested to avoid Toshiba is mostly because of their screen resolution, and after dealing with Toshiba's tendency having terrible batteries and keyboards that fall apart quickly, I no longer suggest buying them.

Last I checked Asus laptops still didn't have 3rd gen I7's for purchase anywhere, but they seem to be available now, So i would agree with getting an Asus.

AW laptops are very good if you get them for the right price, they have one of the best warranty support i have seen, but generally Sager has better prices.

HP is kinda iffy but this gen of laptops have been phenomenal, after both testing a number of them and having a number of people purchase them, they have been great.

And The Qosmio still has a lower res screen than the rest (1600x900). Not to mention that Qosmios screens tend to have very bad contrast ratios (of the 5 i have used)
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The reason why I suggested to avoid Toshiba is mostly because of their screen resolution, and after dealing with Toshiba's tendency having terrible batteries and keyboards that fall apart quickly, I no longer suggest buying them.
Last I checked Asus laptops still didn't have 3rd gen I7's for purchase anywhere, but they seem to be available now, So i would agree with getting an Asus.
AW laptops are very good if you get them for the right price, they have one of the best warranty support i have seen, but generally Sager has better prices.
HP is kinda iffy but this gen of laptops have been phenomenal, after both testing a number of them and having a number of people purchase them, they have been great.
And The Qosmio still has a lower res screen than the rest (1600x900). Not to mention that Qosmios screens tend to have very bad contrast ratios (of the 5 i have used)

Trying to educate me on what to look for in a laptop isn't advised. The screens on the Asus, MSI, Alienware, and Clevo laptops are just as "bad" as the Qosmio in terms of contrast ratio. They do feature better upgrades, yes, but there's no real difference between the screens. If you calibrate the screen, even a low quality monitor will look gorgeous.

I wouldn't recommend Alienware because the warranty only does so well when you've got a malfunctioning laptop that's been back to the depot four previous times. rolleyes.gif Most horror stories with people are those that are uninformed and generally have had to deal with poor choice options with little sway in their side. I.E. most of the time it's either refund or they get a downgrade of some sort by accident. Happens waaay too often to be safe. Plus the software issues... don't get me started on mine. Just... stay clear of AW.

The Asus G75 and G55 laptops have the 3rd gen i7s and realistically there's maybe 10% clock for clock performance increase between a 2nd gen i7. You won't see that difference in games or rendering software. You MIGHT see it in a benchmark, but that's all. It's only useful for SLI or Crossfire situations...and the Asus G series don't support SLI or Crossfire.

HP is terrible with prices. The screen doesn't really matter as much as the GPU does. Rest assured that a 1600x900 17.3" screen, or even a 1366x768, 15.6" screen, backed by a GTX 660M will be more than acceptable for a grand.

Go with a Lenovo laptop. Realistically, again, these are the best deals you can find.
     
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