Originally Posted by stargate125645
Sigh...I hate dragging my soap box out of storage.
The bottom line is if all Nvidia did were allow game developers to support PhysX and nothing more, there wouldn't be a problem. Clearly Nvidia does more to help the developers or they wouldn't partake because it would be more overhead for negligible gain. Nvidia has even hindered AMD in TWIMTBP games before, and they won't let PhysX work when the main card is an AMD, so clearly Nvidia is not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts like many of you sheeple imply. Now they are going even further in the mobile space and the fanboys don't seem to care. Nvidia is the Apple of the graphics world, and they get away with it just like Apple does because of all the sheeple that keep buying Nvidia cards because "it's no big deal" when Nvidia doesn't play fair.
Just because something is not technically illegal doesn't mean it is something you should do. We get enough of that with rich people trying to control the world and buy elections - I don't want to deal with it in my personal life, so it irks me to no end that those of you who still buy Nvidia and Apple products force me to.
what is this? Alright, I get it that Nvidia messed up stuff to make AMD cards not work as well in a game. Foul. As far as not letting PhysX run on an AMD card? DUH. they bought the technology by buying Ageia, and it's been said they offered AMD the ability to pay for a physx license, which they declined. Even if they didn't offer it, it is their tech now, and it is optional for game makers to even include it in their games, and there are alternatives.
Now as far as 'sheeple' you're going a little too far. Not everyone who buys a brand whos business practices you happen to dislike is 'sheeple'. When I bought my gpu, I chose after a couple months of research, a 560ti based on wanting 3d vision, and Physx is something I knew I would get as a bonus. I then chose it based on my budget. It has nothing to do with 'oh my god, nvidia', but based upon my research, I find that in general, especially for the extra benefits I desire, Nvidia has better options in gpus. If I were running 6 monitors, maybe AMD, but I am not. It is no different than my choice to buy an Intel processor. I looked into AMD processors with their 8core offerings, but after research, determined that Intel was the better choice for me.
You are definitely throwing the 'sheeple' around too freely, as a nearly even market split is definitely not 'conformist'. Was it 'playing fair' when AMD brought out bulldozer and made up their own definition of what a core is, and provided benchmarks that only showed off the very few things that a FX could even compete with a core series on? How about all the people who pre-ordered these cpus, or bought them later based on AMDs lies and falsehoods? Most of the larger companies do 'shady' things to promote their own self interests, and happens on both sides of the board 90% of the time. MS does terrible things to sell more copies, Apple hires lil chineese kids to do labor for cheap so they can make more profit off of their less numbers sold. Nvidia messes with some Nvidia sponsored games to run bad on AMD, AMD releases BS benchmarks to fool the consumer. You buying from a company that isn't now in the spotlight for bad morals doesn't mean you didn't buy from a company that does just as bad. Would you buy an inferior GPU by AMD for the same amount of money out of distaste for something Nvidia did to AMD? thats just ridiculous. 'nvidia hurt amd users this one time, and amd never did anything wrong ever, i will NEVER buy nvidia now!!!' sounds a bit fanboyish to me.
also, no body in there right mind stated nvidia done coding for games out of the goodness of their hearts. they did it for advertisement in the game intros. they did it to get better games on the pc, which require dedicated gpus, and they sell about half of that market. they get a few games with physx as a bonus for their cards, and maybe some people buy nvidia cards based solely on that, probably not many. they also have 3d vision support for a lot of games, and from a few, and maybe some people buy cards based on that. I don't see what is absurd about that. yeah, i agree they took it too far when they coded the AA to hinder amd cards in the batman game.. but the rest of the things i listed seem pretty legit business practices to me.