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So you expect them to make the same mistake again, despite going out of their way to make a 'letter' to pc gamers outlining how they're making it better for PC?
Okay thumb.gif
It's pretty obvious Nvidia payed Gearbox a good sum to implement their proprietary software.
There's absolutely no reason to use PhysX nowadays except being payed off since Havok is far superior.

Can you really outright "pay" them to use their aged old aegia buy out? There has to be a proper way of bribing someone right lol? What's the best game produced with Havoc so far? I like BFBC2 and BF3 (at least i think they use the havoc engine)
    
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I got a theory. Referring to the deals where you buy a gtx 66ti, 670, 680 found here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=48&Description=&Type=&N=100007709&IsNodeId=1&IsPowerSearch=1&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&PropertyCodeValue=679%3A289343
http://promotions.newegg.com/VGA/12-3175/index.html
I believe nvidia somehow presented gearbox with an offer they couldn't refuse. I dont see a 7970 coming with a borderlands 2... You do get a Nexiuz (not sure what game that is though).
Actually, im very curious as to how business is conducted between video card company and video game developers (and perhaps iono newegg, market in general) in order to have such deals exist. Can someone chime in and educate?

I believe the way it works is devs approach Nvidia and say they want to be apart of the "The Way it's meant to be played". They pay Nvidia some money and Nvidia sends engineers to work directly with the devs on implementing Nvidia specific features. In return for that, I think the contract states that game gets bundled with a certain GPU. Not 100% sure though.
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Gotta love proprietary software Nvidia! And good job on no linux drivers too! smile.gif
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I believe the way it works is devs approach Nvidia and say they want to be apart of the "The Way it's meant to be played". They pay Nvidia some money and Nvidia sends engineers to work directly with the devs on implementing Nvidia specific features. In return for that, I think the contract states that game gets bundled with a certain GPU. Not 100% sure though.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20100311101148_Nvidia_Denies_Bribing_Game_Developers_for_Implementation_of_PhysX.html
i still say they probly bribe them to just wont admit it why else would companys use it and lose sales of a game to users that dont want to buy it sence they dont get all the features of the game. If the video is real and they gimped the game that much i can see a huge amount of lost sales when it comes to anyone that does not own a card that supports physx.
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Wait, a game in which PhysX actually makes a difference?
Nooice.

I thought Rocksteady did some nice little touches to Batman: Arkham Asylum and City with PhysX. It really added to the atmosphere of the game.

It's good to see Gearbox showing us PC gamers some love with little touches like this. I hope more dev's do these kinds of things in the future.
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Please note that my comment was written in comical hyperbole wink.gif

Now, even if I do own a GTX 580, I simply cannot find myself speaking out for unnecessary use of proprietary software like PhysX. I'd much rather they used Havok instead.
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20100311101148_Nvidia_Denies_Bribing_Game_Developers_for_Implementation_of_PhysX.html
i still say they probly bribe them to just wont admit it why else would companys use it and lose sales of a game to users that dont want to buy it sence they dont get all the features of the game. If the video is real and they gimped the game that much i can see a huge amount of lost sales when it comes to anyone that does not own a card that supports physx.

It's not exactly gimped... I mean does the without PhysX footage look worse than the original game? PhysX is just PhysX, you get some nice looking particles and cloth on the screen and that's it.
 
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It's not exactly gimped... I mean does the without PhysX footage look worse than the original game? PhysX is just PhysX, you get some nice looking particles and cloth on the screen and that's it.

What i dont ge tho is same stuff should be on both screens just with physx it should wave and be able to break into more particles not completely gone like in the video.
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Sweet this is why I am going to dust of a gtx 280 and do some hybrid physx in my rig

Better get some custom drivers then, PhysX is automatically disabled if an AMD card is doing the rendering. It's exactly those kinds of money grubbing techniques that make we want to go with AMD the next time I get a GPU, but I'm torn because I use my GPUs for folding in the winter, which AMD GPUs are terrible for.
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What i dont ge tho is same stuff should be on both screens just with physx it should wave and be able to break into more particles not completely gone like in the video.

that's exactly what i was thinking, the "waving" cloth isn't exactly a texture so unless they made the model only available to physx or however it works shouldn't it still be there without it? just without the fancy movements... if it turns out a large chunk of the game models are missing because they require physx then gearbox can take there game and
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