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i just recently installed a triple extra thick 120mm rad in the place of the double that came with my swiftech kit. the double had 4 fans on it and those were transfered to the new rad. however that leaves two blank fans spots. my question is: is my pump not strong enough? (swiftech MCP655) or do i need to get better airflow?. the temps with the double rad were 30 at idle with the triple its at 50c. i purged out almost all of the air from the system. there is a tiny bubble near one of the rad tubes. if it makes any difference i also have a dual bay resivouir which is full so there is a lot of coolant in the system. any help is appriciated
post #2 of 18
You went from push-pull to 2/3rds of the rad being one fan only, but which rad and fans are you using? The pump should be more than enough for the loop.
   
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Pump is fine....what fans? And are you sure you got all the air out?
 
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It would help if you described your watercooling loop in more detail. Which radiator did you switch from and which one do you have now? Also, what parts are you cooling and which fans are you using? How are your fans arranged (3 push 1 pull, 2/2 or 1/3)?
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turns out that there was an air bubble in the cpu waterblock. i had to remove the block and work the air bubbles through now it seems to be working fine. the system is a swiftech H20-220 "Ultima XT" Series Liquid Cooling Kit. upgraded the reservoir to a phyoibia dual bay and the radiator to a magicool 360 ultra radiator. it seems to be working now that i fixed the block. there are now 6 fans set up in a push pull set up. im actually going to buy some higher airflow fans. three of the fans are only 40 cfm, one is an 80 cfm swiftech fan. and too are 75 cfm. thanks for all the help
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update: i am once again having the overheating problem. after removing all the air out of the system and stabalizing the temps for normal use i tried to begin oc. i ran prime 95 first and before it even finished test 1 in blend the temps shoot up to 55+ and then i have to stop the test. so now i cant even oc this cpu which was the whole point of having the watercooling system. it has new thermal paste, all the air has worked its way out now. im starting to get frustrated with this. i just spent 220 bucks on this radiator and fans and it works worse than my smaller one. how is this even possible?it goes back down to 30 but spikes up when ever load is on it. anything would be helpful
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update: i am once again having the overheating problem. after removing all the air out of the system and stabalizing the temps for normal use i tried to begin oc. i ran prime 95 first and before it even finished test 1 in blend the temps shoot up to 55+ and then i have to stop the test. so now i cant even oc this cpu which was the whole point of having the watercooling system. it has new thermal paste, all the air has worked its way out now. im starting to get frustrated with this. i just spent 220 bucks on this radiator and fans and it works worse than my smaller one. how is this even possible?it goes back down to 30 but spikes up when ever load is on it. anything would be helpful

Um, what were you expecting?
 
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post #8 of 18
i think under 100% load your temps are going to be 55degrees+ probably? cause that is full load just for testing, usually your pc will never get to full load. can you be more specific than "temps shoot up to 55+" give the actual temperture plz
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post #9 of 18
Well for starters some serious specifics would be nice.

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- Loop setup

etc.. Personally, a 30* Idle with a 55* load would be PERFECTLY fine with me and many others, especially if you're using Prime to get those temps. Assuming you're using a Intel chip.
 
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post #10 of 18
Pictures would help too.

What thermal paste did you use? How much did you use? Too much can be as bad as, or worse than, too little.
   
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