[TweakTown] Nvidia's Strong-arm Tactics - How they treat GPU Partners and Media - Page 11

Originally Posted by Imglidinhere 

So they're mad that they're getting a cold shoulder from Nvidia?
Didn't they release the GTX 660 Ti review back about two weeks ago before it was really released? So... >_> yeah... no honoring the NDA... big no-no.

Originally Posted by Usario 

You said that TweakTown did nothing to deserve review samples (though they obviously did if they were getting them for years). Nvidia cut them off out of nowhere and then refused to respond to any of their emails. They got an early sample of a GTX 480 and Nvidia wouldn't even respond to their email asking what the NDA expiration date was. If that's not childish and unprofessional I don't know what is.
Is TweakTown's behavior justified based on that alone? Probably not. Reading the rest of the article, absolutely; give em hell TT.
And if TT lied about what MSI said, common sense says MSI would come out and say such... but they haven't. If I run a fairly large review site and I say I was told by EVGA that they are planning to switch to AMD, but that's entirely made up... don't you think EVGA would make a statement regarding that?
TT has the benefit of the doubt anyway. As jtom said they've been reviewing for years and years and this isn't the first time Nvidia has been accused of strongarming people.
And if you think TT is biased... lol. Have you read their Kepler reviews?

Originally Posted by Crizume 

LMAO at BBEG.
For bashing TT you are using the same tactics they are and only telling one side of the story. Your argument with Usario started because you posted this
So in turn he replied with a post referring to childsish things. But again in youre entire post you left out that you started it.
hypocriticism at its finest.

Originally Posted by TweakTown 
NVIDIA is out to stop our early GEFORCE reviews. This article is for you, our lovely readers; we want you all to be fully up to speed on what is happening behind the scenes. We are not done yet NVIDIA. Expect us.

Originally Posted by TweakTown 
Some years ago we started breaking NVIDIA GEFORCE launch dates and posting our reviews early on purpose because NVIDIA would not support us properly

Originally Posted by TweakTown 
For some silly reason, though, we continue to reach out to NVIDIA and try to make peace.

Originally Posted by TweakTown 
What's the worst case for us? We continue to release reviews without an NDA signed and reap the benefits that the traffic brings in and helps us grow bigger and bigger.

Originally Posted by TweakTown 
NVIDIA are worried, a lot I'd imagine. I guess they assumed we'd get an early GTX 690 sample from one of their partners here in Taiwan. For that reason, NVIDIA gave its partners hardly anytime at all with the GTX 690 in their testing labs.

Originally Posted by TweakTown 
Peace out NVIDIA, except not really.

Originally Posted by BBEG 



Unbelievable. Alright, I'll break this down for you in bite sized pieces.

This is me, posing relevant questions concerning the involved parties. These are not rhetorical questions; they're the kinds that you, a participant in this discussion, can answer to maybe shed light on the why's of the behavior of those involved.



This was you, responding to my above post, answering my questions with a question that a) assumes childish behavior on Nvidia's part, b) missed the point of consequences of one's behavior entirely, and b) hit another point perfectly: we don't know why there was a falling out between Nvidia and TT. What we do know is that, on [one of their] last review sample[s?], they posted an early review. TT then stated they would continue to post early reviews because Nvidia wouldn't communicate with them or send them review samples.

Still with me so far?



This is me commenting that, in your assumed childish behavior of Nvidia, it [sarcastically] justifies the blatantly unprofessional behavior of TT.



This is where reading comprehension really fails. You did not stay on point. You did not reply to the hypothetical questions in a conversationally-meaningful manner. You did not assist in the discussion of the why's of behavior when referencing a post (mine) that did not put blame on anyone at all. If you want to argue relevance, then argue it intelligently. This post of yours that I'm quoting now is not arguing it intelligently.

Which brings us to:



Me again, stating that I recognize your post having assumed childish behavior on Nvidia's part and calling out your avoiding the questions posed altogether.



I've done my damnedest to keep this from getting personal but at this point it's impossible. You have completely, utterly refused to acknowledge other potential points of view. You have focused on only one perspective (that Nvidia is in the wrong) to the exclusion of any other. Sticking to your guns is admirable, but not on a tech forum.

I'll say it again. We don't know what caused Nvidia to go dark on TT. We do know what TT did after the fact. We don't know what MSI heard from Nvidia. We do know that they evidently chose to cut ties with TT. We don't know if TT is truthful about Nvidia prohibiting a 'better cooler' (although given the success and popularity of several coolers from Nvidia partners, I find that hard to believe). In reference to an article that simply describes TweakTown not liking Nvidia, there is a lot more we don't know than we do know, and I would love to see you, Usario, or anyone else argue that what we do know is enough to create informed opinions concerning the behavior of Nvidia, MSI, and TweakTown.

Cheers.

Originally Posted by Rubers 

^ I think it TT ignored NDA's Nvidia can ignore them. It's not childish. It's business.

Originally Posted by Systemlord 

Tweak Town
You made an ultimatum to Nvidia and now you are upset because it wasn't the response you had hoped for?