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I'm finally upgrading my computer and it's time to go with a fully custom loop (I previously used EXOS systems to maintain everything). I came up with the list below to cool my i7 ivy bridge and SLI 580s. Both will be overclocked - though the 580s not as much - and I prefer quieter, cooler systems. I mainly need help with what pump to get as I have yet to find a good comparison between the mcp35x and mcp655 for noise. I would also appreciate a check against my part list and make sure everything is good.

I haven't chosen which compression fittings, exactly, so thoughts on those might be useful. As for hosing, I plan to use 1/2" ID x 3/4" OD. Routing will probably be res > pump > 360 > cpu > both gpus > 240 > res res > pump > CPU > 420 > GPUs > 240 > res as to minimize hosing and let gravity do most of the work (as opposed to running up and down multiple times to hit that second res between the gpu and cpu).

Alphacool UT60 360
AlphaCool UT60 480
Alphacool UT60 240
EK-FC580 (x2)
Heatkiller rev3.0
Alphacool Fusion Core 30
Heatkiller GPU-X3 w/ backplate
Laing DCC-1T+
Swiftech MCP35X heatsink
XSPC DCC top v3.0
Edited by atomic peach - 8/20/12 at 5:27pm
post #2 of 9
I would put the 240 inbetween the cpu and gpus especially if your going to go heavier on the cpu oc..

you will need to dump the heat prior to getting to the gpus..

I mean it might mean a long tube somewhere.. but I would think most people would agree with me..

Unless you want to do..

pump>res>cpu>360>gpus>240> repeat
Edited by JMattes - 8/17/12 at 6:43pm
post #3 of 9
Loop order is irrelevant as the coolant does not increase in temperature that much...some folks with inline thermostats have seen only 0.5C increases in coolant temp in a loop.

Do whatever order is most elegant and easy.
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^^ I am with that loop order is no big deal unless you have 3/4 GPU's, then it would be best to scrub of the heat

also I cannot remember if it is the heatkiller or the Aqua computer watistname that has trouble with 3/4 fittings but one or the other does
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post #5 of 9
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Hmm... I'll have to look into that fitting issue. Thanks tuffarts.

What about pumps, though? Would both the 35x and 655 be capable of supporting this guy?

On another note, I have 4 sticks of Corsair Dominator GT with a tiny air gap between them, should I look into cooling them as well, or will the bajillion fans in the switch 810 handle it?
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Originally Posted by atomic peach View Post

Hmm... I'll have to look into that fitting issue. Thanks tuffarts.
What about pumps, though? Would both the 35x and 655 be capable of supporting this guy?
On another note, I have 4 sticks of Corsair Dominator GT with a tiny air gap between them, should I look into cooling them as well, or will the bajillion fans in the switch 810 handle it?

The pumps are more than adequate, and I've seen a 655 solo some extremely crazy systems. As for the ram, you will be completely good to go with it. Ram, contrary to what many companies make you want to think, does not get overly hot and does not need active cooling. I've heard a lot of people simply cool their ram for aesthetics, but that is a crazy concept for me tongue.gif
    
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post #7 of 9
I like the MCP35X for its small size and Automatic speed control via PWM. Also a very strong pump.

You can fit a 420mm radiator up top, BTW, which is beneficial if you want quiet as they provide around 5,000mm-sq more surface area than a 480! Plus, 140mm fans tend to be slower.

Check my thread for the diagram I made regarding loop routing, been exploring every option and it is the absolute cleanest run I can come up with and will use the least amount of tubing, but you will need some rotary Angled Adapters/fittings and likely a couple extension fittings.

Also, you could get the XT45 420 for up top, have plenty of room for push+pull, and keep the UT60 in the bottom and possibly end up with better temps if you're getting good fans. Push+pull can add 10-20 % gains depending on the fans, and the NeXXos rads scale extremely well with fan speed (which is indicative of p/p scaling very well). Having only 70mm thick of rad+push fans up top will avoid any issues with heatsink/EPS, whereas 85mm is likely to require some significant cutting.
   
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post #8 of 9
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Well I replaced the 360 with a 420 as mentioned - thanks for that! - and decided on the quiet/small pump 35x equivalent (it's a dollar cheaper). Correct me if I am wrong, but I remember reading the XSPC top was the best and offered the best pressure for the pump. Despite having fans at every possible location, I felt that the heat sink would help (but, please, correct me if I am wrong).

Now I just need some fans. I am a fan of NZXT's case fans but I do not know what kind of pressure I would need for this. I'll be trying to find articles explaining this, but if anyone has a handy link it would be much appreciated. I am also a fan of Xigmatek's fans. I'm looking for quiet (but definitely great sound quality, as some noise never hurts) and cost efficient fans (poor college student and I need 14(?) fans. I'm looking for some 140mm fans for the top rad, but have yet to find any round ups on them.

Lastly, I need tubing. I figured tubing was tubing, but who makes the best and who ought I avoid? Also, is any one brand of compression fitting the best?

Thanks for the insight so far, you can never know too much!
post #9 of 9
Keep the stock MCP35X top, nothing beats it. In fact, many are worse.

For 140mm case fans, the NZXT FX140LB is a good choice with 98.3cfm @ 2000rpm.

For the 140mm rad fans, Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm are the absolute best 140mm fans for radiators. Get six for push pull and you'll be in great shape.

For compression fittings. XSPC has excellent pieces and they're only $4/ea. Pair them with however many Bitspower 45deg and 90deg rotary adapters you need, and you will have the cheapest and one of the best options available.
   
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