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I know LGA2011 is best for video editing still, but are any more CPU's in this socket in production or planned to come out?
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i7-3970X is coming in a few weeks to replace the 3960X (same specs, just higher clock/Turbo) . Some 2011 E5 Xeon CPU's can work with certain boards. (check post 33)
http://www.overclock.net/t/1238737/official-msi-big-bang-xpower-ii-owners-club-overclocking-thread/30
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Ivy-E will be on this incarnation of LGA-2011, but is still a ways off.
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Ivy-E will be on this incarnation of LGA-2011, but is still a ways off.

okay so LGA2011 continues. I didn't expect that. thought it was another 1366
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I didn't expect that. thought it was another 1366

What do you mean another 1366?

LGA-1366 had two generations of chips on two different manufacturing processes, and was the flagship socket for three years.
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okay so LGA2011 continues. I didn't expect that. thought it was another 1366

Just as blame said,. Ivy bridge processors for the same LGA-2011 socket would be out in the fall of next year (2013).
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What do you mean another 1366?
LGA-1366 had two generations of chips on two different manufacturing processes, and was the flagship socket for three years.

In it's last year, it was more of an overrated socket than what people thought of it to be.
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In it's last year, it was more of an overrated socket than what people thought of it to be.

What did people think of it to be?

My i7 970 is still faster than a 2700k or 3770k in many multi-threaded apps, and can hold 50% more memory.

I've got a 2700k, but the Gulftown is still my primary system.
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ok im a dork. i got to 1366 late and it was gone shortly after. I jumped on 2011 like a horny monkey
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What did people think of it to be?
My i7 970 is still faster than a 2700k or 3770k in many multi-threaded apps, and can hold 50% more memory.
I've got a 2700k, but the Gulftown is still my primary system.

Comparing a Quad Core processor with a Hexa Core one is just ridiculous. However, due to the better clock-to-clock speeds per cache, per core, per thread, etc, a 3770K is way more faster. In this preliminary example, the average no. of tests are clearly favoring the 3770K:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/157?vs=551

What you do mean that it can hold 50% more memory? A processor never holds memory, that's an incorrect term. Memory only relates to physical memory. The Cache holds instructions that are executed by the processor. But again, it conflicts with the same fact that you comparing two processors with two different no. of cores, hence, cache and threads.

When I said that the 1366 platform is overrated, I meant that now days, an average i5 2500K @ 5.0Ghz (which barely costs $200) outperforms a 980x which is close to I guess $1000 bucks? Technology is enhancing and moving forward, staying behind with these older sockets would be redeemed useless in time.

IB-E would again make a good mark in it's lineup and at that time as compared to the current SB-E models of the 2011 socket.
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ok im a dork. i got to 1366 late and it was gone shortly after. I jumped on 2011 like a horny monkey

Lol, funny how you put it tongue.gif

But you did good, jumping from a 1366 platform to a 2011 surely makes sense, now that even a Sandy outperforms the 1366 platform easily.
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I understand completely the difficult decision between going with the "latest and greatest" (IVB) or going with the more expensive and slightly older Flagship socket. I debated for a long time, as I started looking into building a new rig in February and decided to wait for the release of Ivy Bridge and see how it performed before buying (buyers remorse sucks).

Needless to say, I decided that SandyBridge E was the best option in every possible way. More cores, better overclocking, more mature boards with more mature drivers, a proven mfging process, another YEAR before the second round of chips become available for the socket, 40 native PCI-E 3.0 lanes, quad-channel memory with most boards supporting 8 DIMMs, faster than the newest Intel CPUs and demolished Bulldozer and Phenom II (fyi, I like the Phenom II chips), more expansion options than anything else (multiple GPU'S + RAID Controller Card + PCIE SSD possible, or all-out x16-x8-x8-x8 quad-SLI @ 3.0), and a lifespan that will be measured in years rather than A year...

Sure, IVB may be 10% faster clock-for-clock, but I have: 50% more cores, a chip known to overclock like a banshee, a properly designed IHS with actual solder, don't need LN2 to hit 5Ghz, don't need some unwanted PLX chip to pretend that I am able to run 3-4 GPUs @ greater than X4 speeds nor do I have the latency inherent to such chips, I have one of the absolute best and most feature-packed motherboards ever created, less voltage leak than IVB and it's 3D Gate transistors, a clear upgrade path that doesn't require a new motherboard for probably 4 or 5 years, the power to not only rock games like they were meant to be played but also to edit HD video and Uncompressed Audio better and more quickly than ultra high end workstations of just 3-4 years ago, the option to have 64GB of DDR3 2133 @ 9-11-10 and use 75% of it for an obnoxiously fast RAMdisk while still having 16GB of system memory, surprisingly good Onboard RAID Controller, perhaps the best Intel SATA3 controller (I have yet to see another socket outperform 2011 in SSD speed via native chipset ports, outside of the margin of error), and I could go on...

If you want to build a computer that you can continue to upgrade over the next 4-5 years before bottlenecking even becomes an issue, the 3930K is absolutely the best option. I like to think Ivy Bridge E will bring improvements, and that they will properly manufacture the chips this time, but the possibility of that is still just 50 percent. I know that I, for one, would be extremely "upset" if I bought a 3820 to "hold me over" only for IVBE to be the same thing as IVB, and either hold onto a quad-core that is barely better than a 2600K (although it does have all of the socket benefits that a 2600K never will) and can barely hit 4.5Ghz before breaching 90C even with decent custom water.

I say spend the money now to get the absolute best that there is now, and grab a 3930K. Sure, there is the 3960X but I don't consider it a "superior chip" because it has all of 2MB more L3 cache and comes stock with a 100Mhz higher clock... I have yet to see anything that shows the 3960X outperform the 3930K in any manner that could have any possible impact on any type of day-to-day use. If you can, I will acknowledge that I am wrong, but don't show me some SuperPi benchmark completed 1/10th of a second quicker and say it's evidence. I am saying that if you sit someone down in front of two PCs, each differing only by way of 3930K vs 3960X and tell them to do ANYTHING they want for the next 8hrs (excluding running benchmark programs, and blocking out everything that would say specifically what chip is in it and not by blocking access to the programs simply by blanking out that line of text), that even with 1,000 members from here participating in this experiment, the end result would show that people can tell no better than pure chance, 50/50.

I am not being a fanboy because honestly I am really sad that AMD has fallen into such hard times, and if they had the best chip then I would absolutely have an AMD machine right now. Unfortunately, their best offering is equivalent to the current Intel "average consumer line" (higher-end i3 through mid-range i5). I really respect what they are trying to do; it takes a lot to try and redesign something from the ground up, and I have evidence that they have done it before in the form of a first-run (actually chip 1,007) FX51, the processor that didn't just put AMD ahead, it vaulted them over Intel while teabagging them like a 12yr old Halo player on Xbox live.
The day will come when their chips become dominant again, and it will be a great day for both sides. But it will always be back and forth, otherwise innovation stagnates and we all begin to get excited about a ten percent performance increase, and line up to buy the new chip AND motherboard every year... We all lose, and we all lose badly...


Oh, wait... :/
   
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2x MCP35X + Heatsinks/80x15mm Fan XSPC EX420 Alphacool NeXXos UT60 240 6x Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm Fans 
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4x Koolance 120x25mm 2600rpm Fans Comp/Rotary Fittings (BP/XSPC/Monsoon) Primoflex Pro LRT - White (1/2x3/4) Windows 7 Professional 64bit  
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Dell P2210Hb 21.5" 1920x1080p Viewsonic VA2012WB 20.1" LCD 1680x1050 Dell U3014 Eizo 27" 1440p 10bit RGB-LED Backlit AH-IPS Panel 
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55" LG HDTV (their top 2014 model) Ducky Mechanical (Browns) NZXT HALE90 850W + 8 blown-up AX1200/i's NZXT Switch 810 (White) 
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R.A.T.3 + MX510 My Desk GRADO RS1i Headphones Grado PS1000 Headphones 
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Bitfenix Hydra Pro Fan Controller 5ch 30W/ch Bitfenix Alchemy Individually-Sleeved Extension... NZXT Individually-Sleeved Front Panel Wires (Bl... Phobya Sleeved 1x3pin-to-4x3pin Fan Splitter 
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Sleeved Wires w Paracord myself (no Heatshrink) Custom Front and Top Panels w HexxMesh *In Prog... Working on Custom Pedestal Prototype 
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