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Poll Results: i5 3570K for $202 vs. i7 2700K for $265

 
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    i5 3570K
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    i7 2700K
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post #1 of 15
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Finishing my mini ITX build and trying to decide if I should go with a $190 (+tax) i5 3570K or a $250 (+tax) i7 2700K from Microcenter. The difference is $63 after tax. Both have their positives and negatives, and I decided to go with the i5, for the following reasons, strongly considering resale value in a year (probably through Craigslist):

i5 3570K
+ lower power consumption (goes well with the efficient mini computer concept)
+ better igpu (I don't care, but someone else might)
+ more recent architecture - by the time I decide to sell the computer, Haswell should be out, and I can say that it's only one generation older and still 22nm
+ plenty fast for my purposes, faster per clock than Sandy Bridge
+ I'm saving $63
-cons: doesn't seem as good of a value as i5 2500K for $160 (or the i7)


i7 2700K
+ very powerful, of course, will do anything
+ easy to impress people with "oohh it has an i7"
+ the cool factor of having a powerful processor in a small case
-cons: will be 2 generations behind by the time I sell it, and I'm afraid of it looking like an i7 950 would look now -- outdated. Not as good of a deal as my $200 i7 2600K was a few months ago (now sold along with my previous computer frown.gif )


What do you think? I know I'll personally be fine with both, and I like both. Just can't decide which is a smarter buy considering the price difference and resale value. $63 is not a huge deal, but if it's better to save it, I'll do so gladly.

P.S.: I know the i5 2500K for $160 + tax is the best value, but I'm really deciding between the Ivy i5 and Sandy i7. Ideally I'd like an i7 3770 for $260, but my store is out, and no motherboard bundle deals on non-K CPUs.
Edited by ElevenEleven - 8/18/12 at 1:41am
   
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From your pro's it is obvious:

i5 3570K
+ lower power consumption (goes well with the efficient mini computer concept) - technical point
+ better igpu (I don't care, but someone else might) - technical point
+ more recent architecture - by the time I decide to sell the computer, Haswell should be out, and I can say that it's only one generation older and still 22nm - technical point
+ plenty fast for my purposes, faster per clock than Sandy Bridge - technical point
+ I'm saving $63 - financial point



i7 2700K
+ very powerful, of course, will do anything - technical point
+ easy to impress people with "oohh it has an i7" - personal opinion, not relevant to cost/performance
+ the cool factor of having a powerful processor in a small case - personal opinion, not relevant to cost/performance



I know which one I would pick - and I would factor my work load in. Will I actually use the power of the 2700K?
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Buying any PC component based on resale value is foolish. If you can benefit from HT, buy the 2700k. If you can't, then don't.
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I know what I will find useful for myself--that's not what my post is about. I could well have a use for hyperthreading if particular project I am anticipating working on goes through, but it's uncertain at the moment -- and in any case, that would be a question to myself and is a personal weighting factor which I don't require outside input on.

My question is about public opinion on what is a better value given relative prices and resale value in a year, which, given the small relative price difference, is a fair consideration to keep in mind - if you sell and rebuild often anyway (which I do).
   
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Value is determined on usefulness to the end-user, and is not a universal per-dollar schema. If you choose to be so defensive about it, enjoy all the help you won't get.
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I know what I will find useful for myself--that's not what my post is about. I could well have a use for hyperthreading if particular project I am anticipating working on goes through, but it's uncertain at the moment -- and in any case, that would be a question to myself and is a personal weighting factor which I don't require outside input on.
My question is about public opinion on what is a better value given relative prices and resale value in a year, which, given the small relative price difference, is a fair consideration to keep in mind - if you sell and rebuild often anyway (which I do).

None of those factors should really be considered when selecting a CPU, or if they are they should have a very low weight - and public opinion would likely dictate that:

If your workload (not personally you, but in general) will utilize the extended facilities of the i7 CPU (for example HT) - then that CPU is the right choice.
If otherwise, and your workload requires high performance but unlikely to utilize aforementioned extended facilities of the i7 CPU, then the i5 would be the right choice.
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Value is determined on usefulness to the end-user, and is not a universal per-dollar schema. If you choose to be so defensive about it, enjoy all the help you won't get.

This is a subjective opinion that only takes under consideration one end-user. Perhaps you should give me the benefit of a doubt and consider that I've already weighed my personal factors prior to making this post, the point of which to get a bit of an outside feedback on general performance vs. price vs. market value -- if it's fair with video cards, it's fair with any component.
   
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general performance vs. price vs. market value

What do you want, then? The 2700k will probably still be worth more a year from now, so the resale value should be slightly higher than a 3570k. I'm not sure if you're just looking for personal validation on your spending or what, because based on your "I only care about what's worth more" posts I think you're just looking for a reason to spend more money.
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No point on spending money for HT if you cant use it.
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No, I'm actually looking to save money and make an intelligent decision, and I already did buy the i5 (sitting on my desk unopened because I'm waiting for a PSU to arrive to finish building). Just that I'm going back to MC today to exchange a faulty hard drive, and it's been in the back of my head whether I had made the right choice, so I thought I'd post here to put my mind to rest.
   
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Achieva ShiMian 27" IPSB (tempered glass) Ducky Shine II MX Clears Corsair AX750 BitFenix Survivor in White 
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i7 3770 @ 4.3 GHz ASRock Z77E-ITX GTX 660 Ti + Accelero Mono Plus, 1.875V G.Skill Ripjaws X 16GB at 2133MHz 9-10-11-28-1T... 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial m4 Hitachi TravelStar 2.5" SATA III Intel 330  BitFenix Recon fan controller 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Corsair H100i Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-14 x 4 (radiator front... Phanteks 140mm fan (exhaust) Fractal Design R2 Silent 140mm fan (bottom intake) 
OSOSOSMonitor
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Windows 8 Professional 64-bit (trying it out) Linux Mint Achieva ShiMian 27" IPSB (tempered glass) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2412M 24" LZ-GH aluminum/steel TKL keyboard Seasonic G-550 80+ Gold Fractal Design Define R4 
MouseMouse PadOtherOther
Logitech MX518 Monoprice dual-surface aluminum IKEA Dioder light-changing LED strip on the roof Monoprice 10 x 6.25" drawing tablet 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2400 3.8GHz turbo boost Gigabyte z68x-ud3h-b3 Sapphire Dual-X 7970 OC Samsung 30nm ULP  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Corsair Force 3 LG DVD-RW Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B Noctua NF-S12B ULN 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-14 Fractal Design R2 Silent 140mm fan Bitfenix Spectre 200mm fan Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Achieva ShiMian 27" IPSB (tempered glass) Ducky Shine II MX Clears Corsair AX750 BitFenix Survivor in White 
MouseMouse PadOtherOther
Logitech MX518 Ikea circle! NZXT Hue Lamptron FC-9 
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