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i5 2500k overclock with MSI Z77A-G45. General questions

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Hello there!

Recently I started overclocking a bit, but I kind of realized maybe I shouldn't have bought this motherboard, or Ivy Bridge instead of my Sandy.... but anyhow

I have a few questions, that I hope someone might be able to answer smile.gif

1. I bought new thermal paste yesterday and applied it after I cleaned off the old. Is it safe to overclock before the new past has "settled" or "cured" (whatever terms are used)? The Thermal Paste I bought is Arctic Silver 5.

2. How low possible can I get my idle CPU core volt when setting an overclock to 4-4.2Ghz? I want as low possible power consumption when I browser internet and such.

3. I tried finding an answer to what Intel C-State does, but I can't find anything that I understand. So, what does it mean?

4. Why does my Intel C-State disable itself when I enable it? Is it because I have C1E enabled, or because my CPU voltage is set to auto, or what?

5. Should I be content with using Auto setting for CPU core voltage, since the values seems low (1.136-1.16V), or should I do manual numbers myself?

6. Do you have any overall suggestions for a novice like me, when it comes to overclocking my system? Config below smile.gif

This is how my current overclocking looks
Mysettings-1.png
Or here

I am not 100% sure if I am using Prime95 with correct settings. But at least the CPU goes up to 4.1Ghz and the temps get at a maximum 61degrees C.
These are my most general motherboard settings:

CPU ratio: 41
Internal PLL overcoltage: Enabled
EIST: Enabled
Intel Turbo Boost: Enabled

Enhanced Turbo: Disabled
Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Vdrop Offset Control: Auto
CPU core Voltage: Auto

C1E Support: Enabled
OverSpeed Protection: Enabled
Intel C-State: Disabled

CPU PLL Voltage: 1.800000V

My rig can be found in my profile, if you want to know what hardware I use smile.gif
Thanks in advance!
Edited by Satyricon - 8/18/12 at 5:27am
post #2 of 6

1. Yes!

 

2. As low as it is stable. Underclocking is like overclocking. Just have to find the right combo of speed to voltage. I just use the default one.

 

3. 

 

Quote: internet
Its a technology by intel which allows the OS to independently lower the frequency of the cores when the need be thus saving power. If it's disabled then both the cores will run at a fixed frequency. Enabling it will allow the OS to make the core's run at different frequencies thus making optimum use of power
 

 

4. That I have no idea... lol to be honest.

 

5. That's up to you and the overclock. Is it 100% stable with the voltage you have it at? If not I'd manually enter them, I'm not as experienced with the 1155 overclocking, still used to s775 lol... 

 

6. I'd use this technique to ultimately test for stability. Blend and in place large can also be used.

 

Quote: Blameless
1344k and 1792k FFTs are used most often because many SB systems seem to fail fastest on these particular tests.

Anyway, make sure you have SUM(INPUTS) error checking and Round-off checking both enabled under the advanced menu, then for the stress tests themselves use threads equal to your logical cores (four), the same min and max FFT size (1344k for one test, 1792k for a separate one), set memory usage to about 80-90% of the physical memory in your system (you need to leave a buffer so paging doesn't interfere with the test), and test each FFT for 3-5 minutes.

After you do those two FFTs, I'd recommend at least several hours of the default small and large FFT tests as well. Errors aren't limited to 1344k or 1792k, nor is testing lots of physical memory always the most stressful on every part of the CPU.
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post #3 of 6
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Thanks for the advice and help.

Shortly after I posted my topic I got a BSOD. So I figured I' have to put in manual numbers instead of auto on Core Voltage.

But I have a question. Since I set my CPU on manual numbers, it seems that the cores doesn't idle, but the Watts go down.
Z-CPU shows that the cores are at 1600 MHz. But with RealTemp they show the cores running between 3600-4000Mhz during idle.

Is this normal, and which program should I trust giving me the correct values?

My current values:
CPU Ratio: x40
CPU core Voltage: 1.22V (set to 1.25V in BIOS)
Vdroop: Auto

CE1: Enabled
C-State: Disabled (Maybe this is the reasons why it doesn't go down to idle, but I can't seem to change it?)

Temps when idle: 29-33C
Temps when running Prime95: 64-68C

Should I try to set down my CPU voltage even more?

EDIT: I've searched and searched, but no one seems to know if the MSI Z77A motherboards can have their Vcore offset changed. Anyone have any idea?
Edited by Satyricon - 8/19/12 at 2:39am
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I do not know if I should bother posting in this topic since the interest seems very vague. But ANYHOW.

Does anyone know why Real Temp shows my CPU running 3500-4000MHz clock during idle, meanwhile CPU-Z shows it as 1600Mhz idle, and 4000 MHz during load?

I have been running stable Prime 95 now for a few hours with 4.0 Ghz OC, but doesn't my Vcore seem extremely low?
1.16 V during full Prime95 Load. Temps around 55-60degrees C. 1.18 V during idle. 1.18 V set in Bios

And the last thing... I've been trying to find an answer for this, but can't seem to get a good explanation.
RealTemp shows something called VID, and the value is about 1.4061 during full load and around 1.3xx during idle.
What is VID?
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I have the same CPU and mobo. I overclocked my CPU to 4.5 with core voltage at 1.335. I changed vdroop from auto to offset 100%. I adjusted the long duration power limit to 255 (max) and short duration limit to 255 (max). I enabled Intel c state and ce1. Its been stable so far. I noticed the same thing at idle. Real temp shows CPU MHz between 3500-4500 and CPU z shows 1600 MHz. I honestly don't know why it does that. Just wanted to post saying I see the same. Hopefully someone with more knowledge will chime in.
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I have the same CPU and mobo. I overclocked my CPU to 4.5 with core voltage at 1.335. I changed vdroop from auto to offset 100%. I adjusted the long duration power limit to 255 (max) and short duration limit to 255 (max). I enabled Intel c state and ce1. Its been stable so far. I noticed the same thing at idle. Real temp shows CPU MHz between 3500-4500 and CPU z shows 1600 MHz. I honestly don't know why it does that. Just wanted to post saying I see the same. Hopefully someone with more knowledge will chime in.

Alright. Thanks for responding. smile.gif
I believe that maybe CPU-Z is showing wrong Mhz.
What is your CPU core voltage at idle? Having Vdroop enabled makes my idle CPU core voltage increase, which seems normal, but is this bad for the CPU? But on the other hand I get a lot lower temps with Vdroop enabled.
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