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The red line is what happens at 0.000s, 0.002s, 0.004s, 0.006s. The green line is what happens at 0.001s, 0.003s, 0.005s.

It will not give extra trouble with air pockets.
To get air pockets out of the full cover blocks (and also cpu block and radiators) you'll have to shake you case a little bit. I also like laying the case on it's side for a few minutes. Especially handy with side orientated radiators like you are planning them.
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Interesting. I thought it was more linear than that. A-B-C-D. But it is really A-B-A-C-B-D-C-D or some weird thing like that.
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Maybe you can try imagining it with roads.

There's a 2lane road where people drive 120km/h. Suddenly the road splits into 2 roads with each 1lane.
Cars will split up evenly between the 2roads but will still drive the same speed. Half the number of cars (flow), same speed (pressure).

Here is an example of a parallel setup and he also added a tube at the bottom to easily drain the system. Alltho in this example the drain is not the lowest point in the loop and so it won't be very good at draining the whole loop.
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OHHH, now that I don't need the six inter chamber fans, I can buy the Case Labs inter chamber loop pass threw adapter plates. Nice. I was thinking I could not use them due to fans needing to be there instead.
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Originally Posted by StijnDP View Post

Maybe you can try imagining it with roads.
There's a 2lane road where people drive 120km/h. Suddenly the road splits into 2 roads with each 1lane.
Cars will split up evenly between the 2roads but will still drive the same speed. Half the number of cars (flow), same speed (pressure).
Here is an example of a parallel setup and he also added a tube at the bottom to easily drain the system. Alltho in this example the drain is not the lowest point in the loop and so it won't be very good at draining the whole loop.

And now it clicks for me, nice comparison!!! So I basically designed the perfect drain loop and didn't even know it!! biggrin.gif

Put a quick disconnect plus a cap on the end and bam.
Edited by Neo Zuko - 8/18/12 at 10:52am
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I'm going to disagree with you Forrester since loop order doesn't matter anymore. Only important rule that remains is to place the pump after the reservoir (only important if the reservoir has any air in it).
For instance when people stress test serial gpu vs parallel gpu you see that when using serial, the 2nd gpu's temperature is 0°C to 2°C higher than the first one. That's how little temperature blocks add these days.
Loop order used to be important in 'the old days' when we used weak pumps and overclocks were heat limited.
GPU's have been overclock limited by the hardware for a long time allready. And now cpu's have also reached the fab size where the architecture is the limit and not the temperature anymore.
Pentium4 you could get a 100% higher overclock going from watercooling to phase change. Today on i7 you see 20%-25% higher overclock from water to ln². High end air cooling and prefab water systems like Corsair Hxxx are today very close to reaching the same overclocks as custom water cooling. So imo watercooling has become more focused on silence instead of purely performance.
What I meant was this Neo Zuko

It will prevent you from having to use a 180° bend at the bottom gpu to go back up. The mcp35x2 is more than strong enough to still have enough flow with 2 parallel linked gpu blocks. (when using parallel flows and a weak pump, it has been noticed that in some full cover blocks there are 'dead pockets' which receive very few flow)
My drawing is a side view of tubing in Serial setup and Parallel setup smile.gif

I know loop order doesn't matter now, I even wrote that in the post, I'm just saying I've got the stubborn type of OCD brain that won't do it lol
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I hear ya, I do the same with other aspects of my PC. For my loop, I'm keeping it simple.
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3 rules in draining.
1. Have a port at highest point of the loop where air can go in.
2. Have a port at lowest point of the loop where water can go out.
3. Position all blocks, rads and reservoirs between highest and lowest point in an orientation that the water can freely run to the lowest point.

Draining and filling is something first time watercoolers usually overlook. My first watercooling was a disaster.


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I think the Twin Connect adapter will do Parallel, from the looks of the ports.
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It's true, I didn't understand it enough, I was only thinking in basic terms for draining.
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