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im getting ready to help a friend with a budget gaming rig. the three cpu's i'm looking at are the intel 2120,amd 965,or the amd 4170. my biggest concerns are games like bf3 and i'm not to sure a dual core will handle it as well as a quad core. i'm working with about a $750 budget excluding os. i find myself leaning toward the amd 4170. would this be a good chioce for a budget gaming rig? it also has a 20% off promo code.
Edited by toyz72 - 8/18/12 at 7:56am
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I would narrow it down to 4170 vs 2120. Can't go wrong with either, but going with a 4170 may lead to cheaper mobo.
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I would narrow it down to 4170 vs 2120. Can't go wrong with either, but going with a 4170 may lead to cheaper mobo.

i was thinking this also. for the amd mobo,i was leaning toward the asus 990x evo. for the 2120 i have no clue. there will be no oc'ing but i dont want the ram to be gimped out either? thx for a non bias answer.
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You could go with a 2120 and a cheap H61 board rather than a 4170 and a quality 990X or FX board

If your friend does CPU intensive games (Starcraft, Guild Wars 2, etc) then you should get the 2120
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i was thinking this also. for the amd mobo,i was leaning toward the asus 990x evo. for the 2120 i have no clue. there will be no oc'ing but i dont want the ram to be gimped out either? thx for a non bias answer.

I have no experience with any AM3+ mobos, so I don't know what to recommend but since there's going to be no OCing you don't need to get the most amazing mobo I guess.

As for RAM, 1600MHz G.Skill RipjawsX is fine. No more than 8GB is really needed. For BF3 6GB and over is good.

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Umm..out of those three..the 965 has more horsepower..It has to be OC'd to 4ghz-ish though.
 
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Umm..out of those three..the 965 has more horsepower..It has to be OC'd to 4ghz-ish though.

It's old hat. A 4170 or 2120 are nicer for budget gaming. Not budget benchmarking.
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Umm..out of those three..the 965 has more horsepower..It has to be OC'd to 4ghz-ish though.

if this is so, it could really help the budget. i figured the 4170,and the 2120 would both beat it out. i kind of wanted to play it safe with amd's new cpu right around the corner.

i could use some more input on the i3 and 4170 when it comes to games like bf3.
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BF3 likes quad-core CPU's, so I'd get the 965 and OC it.
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There's a lot of ifs and depends that go into the answer. Let me clarify:

Will an i3 handle BF3? Depends. For single player, it'll do fine (like any modern CPU) for most multiplayer it'll do fine. For the big 64-player multiplayer maps the i3 will likely choke, and you'll be better off with a quad-core.

Will you be overclocking? Generally, you NEED to overclock AMD chips to get decent performance from them. This adds to cost (motherboard quality & aftermarket heatsink unless you like loud computing). So if you or your friend aren't comfortable with overclocking, then AMD is probably a bad idea.

Will other games be important to you that might affect your choice. I'm thinking specifically of StarCraft II, the Total War series of games, or Civ5, all of which benefit from Intel.

So your choices tend to come down to:
1) "I need things cheap, I don't really plan to do multiplayer on BF3 much, or at least not the really big maps, and yes performance in other games will matter to me"
clear win for the i3-2120

2) "I do play to do multiplayer BF3 on big maps, I can figure out an overclock no problem, and I want the best bang-for-my buck to make more room to spend $ on my graphics card, also I live near a microcenter"
clear win for the fx-4170 (or even fx-6xxx)

3) I do plan to do multiplayer BF3 on big maps, but what's this 'overclocking' thing? I/my friend are scared of changing things like CPU voltage settings.
Clear win for the unmentioned i5-3450, which you can pair with a cheap B75 mother board for a cpu+mobo cost of about $265. More expensive than the other options, but not by much considering overclocking a 4170 requires a good motherboard & an aftermarket cooler. This option means that any AMD option (including CPU cooler) you look at should total no more than $230 or so, or you're kind of getting ripped off, since an i5 will best anything AMD-related gaming.

Frankly, you can easily fit an i5-3450 into a $750 tower budget, unless you're also including things like a monitor or an SSD+expensive case, and it's probably the option you should go for.
    
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