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I know this has been covered OVER AND OVER again, but after about 4 days of searching, I cannot seem to find a board that suits my needs or is available. I am looking for a decent oc'in board of the AM2+ variety.

I know that they are all but off the market by now, but I want to build a machine to last me until I can build my REAL machine. I have a bunch of parts already, and just need a decent mobo that can handle me.

The parts I currently have are:

M2N68-LA (Narra) mobo (HP oem crap)
AMD Athlon64 x2 3600, 4000, and 5200
AMD Phenom 9150e
Total of 5 GB DDR2 (2GB x2, 512MB x2)
Nvidia 8800GT (direct from manu, not a restamped one from someone else)
Various PCI bits, Lan, cheapy audio card, things of that nature
Rear USB add-on that uses mobo header and rear empty slot
1 IDE 250GB WD HDD
2 SATA HDD (300GB, and 250GB)
3 CD/DVD drives (I would like to use all 3, but not really a necessity)
(DVD-R/RW SATA x1, CD-RW/DVD IDE x2)
2 PSUs (450w x1, 400w x1) [Not all I have, but all that are close to big enough)

Cooling is not much of an issue, my case is an old metal one, I can always cut more holes...lol I currently only have room for 3 HDDs so theres no big need for tons of device capability. I do have a fan blowing across the HDDs and the current intake for my cpu cooler gets the worst of that mess, but the cpu sink is pretty decent (for the moment). I do prefer ATX boards over their smaller cousins, but if I can find a uATX with all that I need thats fine too.

My "ideal" mobo would be:

AM2/ AM2+ (either or, or both, don't really matter)
4 DIMM up to 32GB
6 rear usb, 6 on mobo
SLi compatible
2+ PCI slots
0 PCIe x1 (stupid little things...lol)
4+ SATA onboard
2 IDE (though I'm finding this is hard to come by these days)
can handle 105w+ cpus
Very simple to use and oc friendly BIOS (no preference on manu there)
northbridge sink NOT in the way of the PCIe x16 slot, my 8800GT don't get along w them very well


Not only do I want to oc, I would like the ability to underclock if need be. In my small room, I have my computer, my wife's computer, our tv, dvr, both of our bodies, and very little air space for cooling, so underclocking when I'm only surfin the net comes in very handy. My last mobo didnt like changing the cpu clock at all. If I did, it would only last a couple weeks at best. I've gone through 3 of the same board and they all did the same exact thing, failed northbridge---> cpu. Strange indeed, but true. They were MSI MS-7260. Ok for beginning stuff, not so much later on.


If my hopes are going to be all but dashed on finding a board, how about instead of bashing me for not moving forward, you point me to a good AM3--->forward board. My budget currently is about 100 dollars a month, so I can't do anything over the top (not that I don't want to....lol) If someone can point me to a AM2+ board with 90% of my requirements I would be happy. Keeping in mind that my mobo budget right this second is <160.

Or if someone has a decent board they are getting rid of that comes even close. I NEED my 3 HDDs, and at least my SATA dvd drive, other than that all bets r off....lol

Thanx guys
Edited by imtheman0313 - 8/19/12 at 3:29am
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post #2 of 13
Staying at AM2+ and SLI means Nvidia chipset. Most AM2+ boards only support 8 to 16GB MAX.

Probably looking for something like a Foxconn Destroyer, Crosshair II Formula or other 780SLI/ 750 SLI chipsets.

I've read about the hacked drivers for SLI on AMD boards but it's iffy. AMD chipsets and official SLI hasn't been an option till the new 990FX released.

Also noteworthy is AM2+ can support some AM3 CPU's but AM3 boards do NOT support AM2 cpu's.

I think you'd be better selling most of that stuff CPU's/MOBO/GPU/RAM and going AM3+ or i3 setup on the cheap. Forget about SLI if your on restricted budget. Wait for a deal on a GTX460 for around $90-100 new. IDE add-in cards can be had cheap on ebay if ports are lacking on motherboard. If you go used market you can get some real steals these days.
Edited by roguetrip - 8/19/12 at 10:12pm
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I did have an old one once, it had a bad NB but i liked it a little. How well does the m2n sli handle ocin?
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post #5 of 13
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Ok, so I really needed a board on short notice so I got this ECS GF8200. It's not the best thing in the world, but it holds my 9150 and lets me surf the net. Still on the look out for a good oc board though. Thanx to winginit for the offer, I may need another backup in the future....a better one than my m2n68-la.....lol New board preferably atx, uatx seems to not have enough options for all the hardware I like to have.
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Alright, so off topic a bit, but still relates. This gf8200 I have. I can adjust the fsb a little bit. I can change the NB HT and memory voltages (but strangely not the vcore) and I can change my memory timings. I have my memory currently at 3-3-3-8-11 @ 667. (not the best I know, but it seems to help to tighten the timings a bit and lower the frequency. it's strange) My problem is that whenever I try to increase the fsb, I get blue screens and vista won't boot. It doesn't even reach the little windows loading bar. And it seems to always be a different error in the blue screen. irqnotlessorequal pagefaultinnonpagedarea driver errors, all kinds of stuff. My question is.....***? lol Is it the cpu or the OS?

I know I havent filled out my specs yet, shutup.

ECS gf8200-a mobo
phenom 9150e
450w psu
nvidia 8800gt
WD 250 GB IDE
Seagate 300 SATA
Seagate 120 SATA
Audigy z5 (or zs? i dunno)
1 IDE dvd-rw
1 SATA dvd/cd-rw
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Ok, so, Ive been doin sum research and I think maybe it really is time for upgrade. I was thinking of going w AM3 or am3+, and going phenom II 1045 or better. Question I guess I have now is, which board would handle enormous oc's best? I don't want to go too high, but I want the board to be able to handle more than what I throw at it, so I won't have to worry about melting it anytime soon. Also, with current rate of graphics "expansion" in games, how long can I anticipate that they will surpass the 8800gt? I play Fallout: New Vegas currently at the highest (plus more even using FOMM) settings without issues. The only time I lag from graphics is when I have more than 8 NPCs on screen at once moving around and such. ( which in fallout isnt too often. ) I run furmark and get 10 fps w AA x8. I plan on getting a SLI board and buying a second 8800gt. If I can find a better card for a decent price though, I might just do that. I do want to try to get a card that is sli capable. (I refuse to go back to ati cards. In my experience, they suck)

If I move to a newer board, I will be looking for usb 3 capability, of course. And I will still need at least 1 ide port. I run vista out of my ide drive. Other than that, just the capability for at least 10 usb ports at least 4 SATA ports, and at least 2 pci slots. So, ideas for a decent well priced AM3 or AM3+ board?
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when yougo with a new board you will need a new copy of windows your Vista is a OEM copy and is COA is set with the old mother boardbest this you can do is down load all your files on a cd and sell the old rig and build you a new one
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Ok, so, Ive been doin sum research and I think maybe it really is time for upgrade. I was thinking of going w AM3 or am3+, and going phenom II 1045 or better. Question I guess I have now is, which board would handle enormous oc's best? I don't want to go too high, but I want the board to be able to handle more than what I throw at it, so I won't have to worry about melting it anytime soon. Also, with current rate of graphics "expansion" in games, how long can I anticipate that they will surpass the 8800gt? I play Fallout: New Vegas currently at the highest (plus more even using FOMM) settings without issues. The only time I lag from graphics is when I have more than 8 NPCs on screen at once moving around and such. ( which in fallout isnt too often. ) I run furmark and get 10 fps w AA x8. I plan on getting a SLI board and buying a second 8800gt. If I can find a better card for a decent price though, I might just do that. I do want to try to get a card that is sli capable. (I refuse to go back to ati cards. In my experience, they suck)
If I move to a newer board, I will be looking for usb 3 capability, of course. And I will still need at least 1 ide port. I run vista out of my ide drive. Other than that, just the capability for at least 10 usb ports at least 4 SATA ports, and at least 2 pci slots. So, ideas for a decent well priced AM3 or AM3+ board?
Finding a am3+ board is very hard with the pata connection. This is one of the only decent ones i even saw. Check link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157266
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That's not bad at all. Covers jus about all of my requirements. Good find codaisayoda.

My Windows isn't a problem. I have a developer friend that was given access to 10 copies of Vista (to distribute) and 100 keys. AND he is in contact with the build team, and can activate it if he runs out of keys later. It's good having computer friends....lol

Now all I gotta do is save sum monies and build a case. The case may be a while though. I'm building it to last.
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