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post #21 of 41
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Okay so.. remind me why my CPU is throttling again?

What Bios are you On

You must be on Bios P1.40 or Newer for this CPU
Edited by motokill36 - 8/21/12 at 10:09am
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post #22 of 41
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Okay so.. remind me why my CPU is throttling again?

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Originally Posted by jsc1973 View Post

You need to replace the motherboard and the power supply. Neither one is adequate for running an X6 processor. Asrock may have claimed that board was good enough for a 95W TDP processor, but seriously, it's nothing but an old AM2 design that was re-fitted with an AM3 socket, and I'm pretty sure its existence predates the introduction of the Phenom II X6 line anyway.
The PSU is some "no-name" unit that came over on a slow boat from China. If you actually tried to draw 750W from it, it would go up like a Roman candle. It would probably blow up if you tried to pull 450W, let alone 750.
If you're going to continue to use those components, you need to lock down at least three of those six cores until you are able to upgrade to a better board and PSU.

^there.
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post #23 of 41
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Originally Posted by shinii View Post

Okay so.. remind me why my CPU is throttling again?
Most likely, problems with the power delivery system.
post #24 of 41
Your CPU is throttling becase of your mother board. On AMD mother boards as you reach the max THP for the board (in your case 95w) the board cuts the cpu back i.e CPU throttling
post #25 of 41
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THIS IS ALL GOD DAMN CONFUSING.
first you guys are telling me I need a new powersupply, now I need a new motherboard? what.
post #26 of 41
Okay here is what it's looking like...The problem is either the Motherboard or your Power supply.

Reason for motherboard
With a low power phase you can chance burning up the board and other components if you don't have clean power running to them. This normally isn't a huge issue if you get a low end CPU that has low power draw. However you have a board that only has a 4pin 12v power connector. That usually tells us it has low power feed. The 95w TDP socket rating is okay for most 2, 3 and 4 core processors. Even though it supports a phenom II x6, it's not a good match. Don't get me wrong ASRock isn't a bad board or company, but overclocking a x6 on a 95w TDP socket with a 4pin 12v hookup is very borderline shoot even some 4 core Phenom II's on a 95w could be bad.

Reason for Power supply
There are alot of power supplies out there that have a high rating that frankly don't cut it. I had a Cooler master 520 watt that fried a 775 socket intel board and it wasn't even overclocked. Name brand PSUs are the way to go, because you know it's been tested and put through end user testing too. The off name ones and the 500watt+ PSUs that are "inexpensive" usually are only good for basic use and even then it's enough to make people nervous. They may be rated at 750w on the sticker, but that may not be near enough by the time all the resources are spread across everything. a single 12v rail in a psu could be rated low and the other things be rated higher.

End Result
The combination of a lower TDP socket with a 4 pin 12v CPU hookup and a "no-name PSU" makes for a bad combo. Could fry your CPU or corrupt your RAM and more. So that's why everyone is worried about the MOBO and PSU

I know it's not ideal, but the recommendations i gave were to get you solid stuff without breaking the bank. You could even go lower than 750 on the psu, but an OCZ PSU will last you a long time with a great warranty also that lasts for years. Gives room for some expansion later and stability without the High price tag like some other PSUs

check my post on the other page for the recommendations if you choose to go that route
Edited by kenmore81 - 8/21/12 at 5:48pm
post #27 of 41
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THIS IS ALL GOD DAMN CONFUSING.
first you guys are telling me I need a new powersupply, now I need a new motherboard? what.

Thats because you need both. The current power supply you have is of extremely low quality and is therefore very likely to fail. The motherboard you have is also unsuitable for the CPU you have because the voltage regulators cannot handle the current/wattage that your CPU needs to work correctly.
post #28 of 41
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You need to replace the motherboard and the power supply. Neither one is adequate for running an X6 processor. Asrock may have claimed that board was good enough for a 95W TDP processor, but seriously, it's nothing but an old AM2 design that was re-fitted with an AM3 socket, and I'm pretty sure its existence predates the introduction of the Phenom II X6 line anyway.

I think all that needs to be said is in this post. thumb.gif

The AM2 3-phase design in this board far predates the Phenom II series entirely.  It was designed for Athlon x2 64 dual cores. Technically it does not even fully handle any processor of the Athlon II or Phenom II series because the split phase is required for optimal performance/running of the CPU-NB component.  While the 1045T you have falls within the 95W TDP spec and ASRock has decided to ratify it, I would not ignore the serious questions that can be brought up about this board and its reliability to support this processor.

 

There hasn't actually been any confirmation of a throttling or VRM protection component in these lower end ASRock motherboards but I would not deny the possibility given there haven't actually yet been any recorded failures.

 

pioneerisloud (mod) usually tells people around that the motherboard and PSU are the most important never-skimp components to consider in a PC. I'd agree and I'm glad to see more agreement. He's had some experience with bad boards (incl. VRM failures) so he knows what he means.


Edited by xd_1771 - 8/21/12 at 5:43pm
post #29 of 41
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Originally Posted by MrThatGuy View Post

Thats because you need both. The current power supply you have is of extremely low quality and is therefore very likely to fail. The motherboard you have is also unsuitable for the CPU you have because the voltage regulators cannot handle the current/wattage that your CPU needs to work correctly.
Is HEC that bad? From the reviews of their power supplies I have read, it seems as if their power supplies can supply their rated wattage, though I've seen a few with awful ripple control.
post #30 of 41

^ That may depend on the unit.

There is an advertised 585W on Newegg that's popular but if I remember according to a review somewhere does not supply much of its rated wattage at all.  Lately with their Cougar series their quality has been going through improvement.  It's just like Rosewill (although Rosewill are even further ahead).

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