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16GB, you will never need more than 2GB for anything ever... /sarcasm

remind me of first PC's

will never need more than 5MB of Storage, never!
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I don't understand windows installed and ubuntu in vmware... I get it when it's vice versa...

I use a Windows host and a Linux guest because I am vastly more familiar with Windows, and only need Linux occasionally.
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I understand where you're coming from, but I'm a bit of a gamer. VMWare doesn't emulate DX10 or 11, nor really DX9 well enough to play a decent 3D FPS. I have Windows as the host because I want to be able to game on it. Once Valve releases the Steam client and L4D2/TF2 for Linux, I'll switch right over.

Hardware virtualization with IOMMU doesn't need to emulate much of anything. You can use most of your native hardware at close to native speed.
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Hardware virtualization with IOMMU doesn't need to emulate much of anything. You can use most of your native hardware at close to native speed.

It's not possible to use IOMMU or VT-d to use a GPU in a windows guest for the purpose of 3D gaming. The bare-metal hypervisors like ESXi or XenServer don't allow you to see the guest machine's "screen" at the physical host, which means that you have to use Remote Desktop, and it's not possible to play a 3D game over remote desktop. VMWare Workstation virtualizes the DX9 interface for the guests and does not support IOMMU or VT-d. I have searched endlessly for a hypervisor that allows you to sit at the physical host, interact with the guests using the physical host's monitor/kb/mouse, and utilize IOMMU or VT-d to give control of a GPU to a guest, and there simply is no such hypervisor. If you know of one, please, please tell me about it.
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Can't you just connect the display to the shared GPU instead? It's probably a bit of a hassle to change it back and forth all the time though..

EDIT: And about 16GB being worth it or not, I'd say definitely worth it smile.gif
Can't have enough of it anyways, and as it's dirt cheap these days, why the heck not? I'm certainly planning to go 16GB when I go Ivy.
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No, it will save you from upgrading later.
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My setup is used strictly for school and gaming. It had 16GB of DDR3 1600 and now has 8GB of DDR3 2400. With the faster ram, 3DMark11 scores slightly higher but I would say using same speed ram there is no difference between 16GB and 8GB. I would settle for some faster ram with low timings.
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Can't you just connect the display to the shared GPU instead? It's probably a bit of a hassle to change it back and forth all the time though..
EDIT: And about 16GB being worth it or not, I'd say definitely worth it smile.gif
Can't have enough of it anyways, and as it's dirt cheap these days, why the heck not? I'm certainly planning to go 16GB when I go Ivy.

What I'm saying is this:
1) You have an ESXi host with a Windows VM and a Linux VM. Neither VM can be displayed on the host's screen. The host will only show the host's stripped-down ESXi Linux CLI. The guests can use VT-d or IOMMU, but I don't believe that they can use the GPU to display the guest's screen. If it was possible to do so, you wouldn't be able to switch the display back and forth between VMs. The GPU would be owned by a single guest if it was possible to even show the guest's screen using VT-d or IOMMU.

2) You have a Linux host with a Windows guest. There are no non-bare-metal hypervisors that allow you to utilize VT-d or IOMMU. If all it took was buying a second GPU so that I could give it to the guest, I would be all over it, but it simply isn't possible.
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Is 16GB of RAM overkill?

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