MSI's Master Overclocking Arena (MOA) Finals 2012(Sept 28th) coverage thread

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8/21/12 at 9:35am

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Originally Posted by 3930K

I want to be you.
Incidentally, what happened to your wife and OCN?

She probably realized it wasn't her thing.
Could be bad..doubling the LN2 bill.
Ask them why they use crappy FETs/chokes

er..Maybe be a bit more tactful than I am

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8/22/12 at 2:45am

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Originally Posted by 3930K

I want to be you.
Incidentally, what happened to your wife and OCN?

She probably realized it wasn't her thing.
Could be bad..doubling the LN2 bill.
Ask them why they use crappy FETs/chokes

er..Maybe be a bit more tactful than I am

Doubling the ln2 bill

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8/24/12 at 6:14pm

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I never really understood extreme overclocking. They use techniques that are useless to real world computing.

Once they figure out something we all can use on a daily basis, I'll rejoice, but until then 7GHz with liquid nitrogen is unrealistic. I mean why not test gaming while they are at it? All we get are abstract benchmarks.

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8/24/12 at 6:38pm

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Originally Posted by Gunderman456

I never really understood extreme overclocking. They use techniques that are useless to real world computing.
Once they figure out something we all can use on a daily basis, I'll rejoice, but until then 7GHz with liquid nitrogen is unrealistic. I mean why not test gaming while they are at it? All we get are abstract benchmarks.

It's called competition , like drag racing a car. You don't drive a funny car to work everyday, it's more like a hobby for weekends, not really a 24/7 thing. Would you ride a bicycle instead of driving because you aren't allowed to do 200mph on the way to work?

You're into case modding, it doesn't do anything for real world computing either, you do it because you like it, same with us. Instead of making a rig look nicer than what everyone else has, we like to make a rig go faster than everyone else does (or try to at least, in my case).

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8/24/12 at 8:23pm

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FTW phrased it pretty well... Additionally, it's pretty neat to demonstrate the power of current hardware compared to future hardware.

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8/25/12 at 8:40am

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I never really understood extreme overclocking. They use techniques that are useless to real world computing.
Once they figure out something we all can use on a daily basis, I'll rejoice, but until then 7GHz with liquid nitrogen is unrealistic. I mean why not test gaming while they are at it? All we get are abstract benchmarks.

lol, El Gappo played COD during a live stream with his CPU at like 6Ghz on LN2. That work for you?

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8/25/12 at 9:12am

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lol, El Gappo played COD during a live stream with his CPU at like 6Ghz on LN2. That work for you?

What was the fps in game say compared to a stock cpu or one overclocked to 5GHz? Things like that would interest me.

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8/25/12 at 10:17am

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Originally Posted by Gunderman456

I never really understood extreme overclocking. They use techniques that are useless to real world computing.
Once they figure out something we all can use on a daily basis, I'll rejoice, but until then 7GHz with liquid nitrogen is unrealistic. I mean why not test gaming while they are at it? All we get are abstract benchmarks.

It's called competition , like drag racing a car. You don't drive a funny car to work everyday, it's more like a hobby for weekends, not really a 24/7 thing. Would you ride a bicycle instead of driving because you aren't allowed to do 200mph on the way to work?

This this and in every single way, this. People dump on competitive overclocking, yet what's the point of any car sports? Do they make anything go any faster? Do they balls.

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Once they figure out something we all can use on a daily basis, I'll rejoice, but until then 7GHz with liquid nitrogen is unrealistic.

Once they figure out something we all can use on a daily basis, I'll rejoice, but until then doing a quarter mile in 6 secs with a drag racer is unrealistic.

Once in a while something like Formula 1 will push the boundaries, something like KERS or car safety,
Once in a while something like competitive overclocking will prioritise weakspots in a power delivery design, causing it to go back to the drawing board. This is why we now have four boards specifically with high-end power delivery for real world overclocking:

MSI Z77 MPower
ASRock Z77 OC Formula
ASUS Maximus V Extreme
Gigabyte Z77X-UP7

If daily overclocking is your focus, these boards have been designed by some of the best competitive overclockers in the world, who have all won at the top level at some point in their career. Thus they got snapped up by the big companies to help design their products and aim it at the bigger crowd. If an OCN member got picked up to design a board, we'd all be right behind them.

Repeat ad nauseum..

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8/25/12 at 10:39am

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I never really understood extreme overclocking. They use techniques that are useless to real world computing.
Once they figure out something we all can use on a daily basis, I'll rejoice, but until then 7GHz with liquid nitrogen is unrealistic. I mean why not test gaming while they are at it? All we get are abstract benchmarks.

You think if guys never took DICE or LN2 to their hardware we would have ever thought to put something like a liquid cooling loop in our systems to get our daily overclocks up to even now close to what they started getting with DICE back in the day? I don't know too much about the origins of overclocking, but I figure that without people pushing the limits with extreme methods of overclocking we would never have the encouragement to overclock our daily computers as far as we have with less intense but more permanent methods. I remember the first time I saw the video of the AMD guys getting one of their zambezi chips to 8.5 or whatever ghz with liquid helium on all 8 cores at -200 someodd degrees. I was all like...

WHAAA. At which point I looked up how intense home computers could get when I found liquid cooling and all that. Then built my first rig (down below) and joined up on this site

I can't wait for the day I have my first go at DICE, or LN2 benchmarks. It's intriguing to see how far you can push the computing power of these pieces of technology

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8/26/12 at 6:17pm

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Originally Posted by Gunderman456

I never really understood extreme overclocking. They use techniques that are useless to real world computing.
Once they figure out something we all can use on a daily basis, I'll rejoice, but until then 7GHz with liquid nitrogen is unrealistic. I mean why not test gaming while they are at it? All we get are abstract benchmarks.

Here's the deal, you don't need to understand it. We're not here to pour LN2 on our computers and test gaming performance for you, we're not here to give you anything. We bench on LN2 for our own enjoyment, synthetic or as you call them abstract benchmarks are our thing. If that doesn't interest you, go and play another round of COD and forget about what we're doing.

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2x WD 500GB Raid0	WDCB 640GB	Corsair H100	W7 x64
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LG 23" IPS	Corsair HX750	Fractal Arc Midi	Auzentech X-Raider 7.1
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PhenomII x4 965 @ 4.327GHz 1.44v	Asus M5A99X-EVO	Gigabyte HD69501GB	4GB SuperTalent @ 1822 CAS7
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Cooling	OS
2x WD 500GB Raid0	WDCB 640GB	Corsair H100	W7 x64
Monitor	Power	Case	Audio
LG 23" IPS	Corsair HX750	Fractal Arc Midi	Auzentech X-Raider 7.1
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