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I like these cards. They're also REALLY cheap currently in the UK:

£239.00 a piece.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-054-HS

That's a good £20 cheaper than any GTX660ti or other 7950 and £60 cheaper than any GTX670.

I DO want to SLI or crossfire, as this will be my LAST upgrade for quite a long time - I SWEAR it this time biggrin.gif - thus I am really looking at either the 7950 or the 660ti with my budget, though logic and research SHOULD dictate that the 670 be my option instead of the 660ti, but the price is just creeping too high. Ugggh ... I REALLY want 670's though. I could wait ... but getting 7950 crossfire for less than £500 is massive, as I was considering a £420 GTX680 in this process.

I am, however, VERY intrigued with Physx, especially with Borderlands 2 coming out and looking to take advantage of the effect very well. I am prepared to consider getting a lower-end nVidia card as a stand alone Physx card with the custom drivers if I can be sold on a single GPU (in this instance we are likely talking a 7970 and GTX550ti), though the potential inability to use the latest AMD drivers would concern me (I don't understand how it works yet and would have to research properly).

I am heavily invested in power consumption to performance ratio. I also HATE hot components, and the external exhaust of the HIS card is a major positive, given my intent on going dual-card.

I'm wondering whether SLI MSI GTX670 OC/PE would be better for me, regarding micro-stutter, power consumption, actual gameplay,, tessellation etc, but maybe worse in longevity, VRAM for mods/triple monitor etc

I am quite intrigued by eyefinity or triple monitor equivalents. I may well go that route within the lifespan of this upgrade, thus the VRAM issue. I currently almost exclusively game on a 42" 1080p TV.

I play a wide variety of games, some favoring AMD, some nVidia. Skyrim is a big plus for nVidfia re: performance to me, though the VRAM of the 7950 is a plus for modding plus AA/AF. My PC is on for much more time than I game though, and the AMD feature of turning off not-in-use GPU's is a massive positive for power consumption levels.

PLEASE HELP ASAP!!! I'm about to just jump on the 7950's, but hate the instinctual hesitation of such a serious purchase for my typical budget.

Give me your thoughts, suggestions and recommendations OCN! thumb.gif
Edited by willibj - 8/22/12 at 6:24am
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Jump for it. The card looks good for CF since it does not blow hot air inside the case.
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Jump for it. The card looks good for CF since it does not blow hot air inside the case.

This is a MASSIVE positive for my current situation, no doubt. However the other listed points concern me still. Thanks for the input, now under consideration.
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Go for it! That would be an amazing buy. 690 performance for only 500 pounds. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by GREG MISO View Post

Go for it! That would be an amazing buy. 690 performance for only 500 pounds. thumb.gif

I know! I'm not scared of overclocking, especially with the HIS 7950's thermal and noise performance, and I figure that these cards at around 1100mhz with a decent VRAM overclock will be no doubt on par with a GTX690 in general, for literally £400 pounds less.That's like 60% of the price at most. WOW!

But ahhhhh. still so many concerning questions. Power consumption and my PSU? Drivers? Physx? Microstutter?
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Originally Posted by willibj View Post

I know! I'm not scared of overclocking, especially with the HIS 7950's thermal and noise performance, and I figure that these cards at around 1100mhz with a decent VRAM overclock will be no doubt on par with a GTX690 in general, for literally £400 pounds less.That's like 60% of the price at most. WOW!
But ahhhhh. still so many concerning questions. Power consumption and my PSU? Drivers? Physx? Microstutter?

To the microstutter, It seems that if you add a third card into the picture the stutter is much more difficult to notice, so if it is that unbearable (which I honestly don't think it is, however I'm using a 690) you will be able to rid yourself of it if you pick up a third card in the future.

and about the physx, the list of games that actually do great things with it is underwhelming (however borderlands 2 seems to use it for some awesome effects) but still...underwhelming.

about the PSU, you're A OK thumb.gif

Drivers, not so sure, I'm an nvidia guy, but If i remember correctly, AMD had quite a big success n the driver department recently... correct me if i'm wrong peeps
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To the microstutter, It seems that if you add a third card into the picture the stutter is much more difficult to notice, so if it is that unbearable (which I honestly don't think it is, however I'm using a 690) you will be able to rid yourself of it if you pick up a third card in the future.
and about the physx, the list of games that actually do great things with it is underwhelming (however borderlands 2 seems to use it for some awesome effects) but still...underwhelming.
about the PSU, you're A OK thumb.gif
Drivers, not so sure, I'm an nvidia guy, but If i remember correctly, AMD had quite a big success n the driver department recently... correct me if i'm wrong peeps

With my mobo's PCIe layout (and my add-on Wifi plus Xonar DG cards), triple GPU won't be possible without a dual GPU plus single GPU (ie: 7990 plus 7970) which would require a PSU upgrade. It looks as though dual GPU is my fate in that regard. My PSU is about 9 months old (after RMA'ing 18 months into the first PSU's lifetime) and will hopefully handle my rig for at least the next 12-24 months.

It does seem as though AMD drivers post-12.7 are much better in terms of stability and performance. I've never personally experienced any note-worthy AMD driver issues, and am rather convinced that the majority of reported "issues" are end-user related.

Borderlands 2 use of Physx *ALMOST* has me convinced of going the nVidia route ... probably GTX660ti. Seriously, it looks gorgeous, plus I'm just generally intrigued with the green team again. This rig is my first Intel chip in a good 15-18 years, and my last nVidia GPU was the Geforce 4mx card lol. Plus the power consumption and apparently slightly better dual-gpu stability/smoothness.
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With my mobo's PCIe layout (and my add-on Wifi plus Xonar DG cards), triple GPU won't be possible without a dual GPU plus single GPU (ie: 7990 plus 7970) which would require a PSU upgrade. It looks as though dual GPU is my fate in that regard. My PSU is about 9 months old (after RMA'ing 18 months into the first PSU's lifetime) and will hopefully handle my rig for at least the next 12-24 months.
It does seem as though AMD drivers post-12.7 are much better in terms of stability and performance. I've never personally experienced any note-worthy AMD driver issues, and am rather convinced that the majority of reported "issues" are end-user related.
Borderlands 2 use of Physx *ALMOST* has me convinced of going the nVidia route ... probably GTX660ti. Seriously, it looks gorgeous, plus I'm just generally intrigued with the green team again. This rig is my first Intel chip in a good 15-18 years, and my last nVidia GPU was the Geforce 4mx card lol. Plus the power consumption and apparently slightly better dual-gpu stability/smoothness.

Well, I'm biased, being an nvidia fan, so I'll just say, you can't go wrong with the 660ti, throw in a second down the line, and you've got a pretty sweet machine right there thumb.gif
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Well, I'm biased, being an nvidia fan, so I'll just say, you can't go wrong with the 660ti, throw in a second down the line, and you've got a pretty sweet machine right there thumb.gif

There won't be a "down the line" in this situation. I'm getting both cards at the same time, regardless of which direction I go: HD7950/70 or GTX 660ti/670.

it's a price/performance/features/value/power-consumption/noise/longevity battle to my wallet!
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There won't be a "down the line" in this situation. I'm getting both cards at the same time, regardless of which direction I go: HD7950/70 or GTX 660ti/670.
it's a price/performance/features/value/power-consumption/noise/longevity battle to my wallet!

I would pick up the 670 from the benches i've seen it delivers ~20% better performance
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