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How can I tell if the frames in a game are caused by ghosting or tearing. I'll play BF2142 and while running straight it's fine, while firing great. It's just that if I pay attention closely it looks like the pictures kind of tears/ghosts or watever it may be while turning left and right real quick. I can't really tell the different between the 2. My video card is a X1900XT and my monitor is a KDS715S http://www.kdsusa.com/K717s.asp . That's the link for the more specific mods. It's no 2ms monitor but before I go try out a "Gaming LCD" type of monitor with the low video response specs if they're really worth it! Let me know what everyone thinks! Hey it might just be that time

I guess I'm also trying to understand what ghosting looks like as well, let me know if this is it or what I should be lookin for.

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it's tearing. CRTs don't "ghost"

Turn on Vsync.
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it's tearing. CRTs don't "ghost"

Turn on Vsync.
The link he posted is an LCD? Maybe it changed...
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The link he posted is an LCD? Maybe it changed...
Oh shoot. You're right.

I could swear i say CRT. It could very well be ghosting then. LCDs don't tear.
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Most modern lcds do not suffer from ghosting. This is basically the result of the pixels on the monitor not changing from colour to colour fast enough. Ghosting on a lcd usually results in blurring or distorting of an image. It can also kind of look like burn in when looking at a fast moving object ie you can still see the object in its original place for a short period of time even after its moved.
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Most modern lcds do not suffer from ghosting. This is basically the result of the pixels on the monitor not changing from colour to colour fast enough. Ghosting on a lcd usually results in blurring or distorting of an image. It can also kind of look like burn in when looking at a fast moving object ie you can still see the object in its original place for a short period of time even after its moved.
Hmm, well thats not the case tho its just when turning left and right real quick buildings will tear. But I'm getting like 90-100fps on BF2 and 80ish on BF2142 sooooo I can't tell what's causing it. Does ATI have a mod in their actual Catalyst Control Center to enable it that way? I don't see any mode in BF2142 or BF2 to enable vertical sync. I've only seen FEAR and I believe World of Warcraft with that mod integrated into the game. I'm sure there are other that I don't know off the top of my head.

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Hmm, well thats not the case tho its just when turning left and right real quick buildings will tear. But I'm getting like 90-100fps on BF2 and 80ish on BF2142 sooooo I can't tell what's causing it. Does ATI have a mod in their actual Catalyst Control Center to enable it that way? I don't see any mode in BF2142 or BF2 to enable vertical sync. I've only seen FEAR and I believe World of Warcraft with that mod integrated into the game. I'm sure there are other that I don't know off the top of my head.

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I just forced V-Sync through my display control panel, fixed the CRAZY TEARING I was getting in FEAR, almost thought my card was defunct. I'm not familiar with ATI cards..maybe you can force it manually?
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It could be either or both. Someone said LCD's don't tear and that's false. Even though they have the potential not to, they still run on a refresh rate and therefore doesn't always refresh at the same speed that the card renders frames. Although they look quite different in my opinion (tearing is only horizontal lines while ghosting is entire trails left by moving objects) try enabling vsync and see if it persists. If so then you know it's ghosting, but if not then it's tearing.
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I just forced V-Sync through my display control panel, fixed the CRAZY TEARING I was getting in FEAR, almost thought my card was defunct. I'm not familiar with ATI cards..maybe you can force it manually?


That's what I'm trying to find lol FEAR has their own enable button in the game to turn on Vert Syn, right now. I can't find ATI tool to do that so far.

I had a 7900 GT before and was able to enable it through their display controls.
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