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post #11 of 71
Depending on how much your into gamming a Intel or AMD will work on about the same level both can get over 60FPS and with a 60Mhz monitor you will never be able to tell if its a AMD rig or a Intel its not till you start getting into 2 or more monitors or a single 120Mhz monitor
post #12 of 71
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Depending on how much your into gamming a Intel or AMD will work on about the same level both can get over 60FPS and with a 60Mhz monitor you will never be able to tell if its a AMD rig or a Intel its not till you start getting into 2 or more monitors or a single 120Mhz monitor

It's actually when you start getting into multiple GPU setups where the difference gets noticeable from what I've seen, but I do understand your point. Problem with that logic though, is why limit your potential performance later on down the road? The AMD setup will need a CPU upgrade long before a Sandy or Ivy setup will to remain a viable gaming platform.

Not saying the AMD processors are bad...because they're not. But considering he needs everything including a motherboard, why limit his options to one company?
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post #13 of 71
and thier is this logoic,, why pay for something you can,t use nor see?
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Well actually, ive gotten ALL used parts in a shopping card right now on amazon. its running me 460 dollars right now. I want to crossfire/sli (could someone explain the difference?) later on too, and im sick of this stupid biostar 880g+ micro atx...im not doing micro ever again.

So, with that said, im looking for a cpu that will allow me to do some epic duel monitor gaming, And i would like to crossfire/sli later on with a motherboard that has alot of room.

If anyone can post up some ideas, i'll take a look at them.

And if youre still lurking, post up your suggusted rig build for me? and ill see what i can do.

Thank you guys.
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and thier is this logoic,, why pay for something you can,t use nor see?

What logic are you referring to? Trying to help him pick the best performing parts he can afford within his budget?

There's nothing at all wrong with AMD, or Bulldozer. But face it, Sandy Bridge is faster, especially at gaming, and even more so when you start getting into higher end setups. Why limit his options right out of the gate with something inferior?

If he already had a good and solid AMD board, I'd tell him right now to go get an FX6100 or 8120. But that's not the case, he wants a full build. So why not offer him the best he can afford, rather than mediocre but workable?
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Well actually, ive gotten ALL used parts in a shopping card right now on amazon. its running me 460 dollars right now. I want to crossfire/sli (could someone explain the difference?) later on too, and im sick of this stupid biostar 880g+ micro atx...im not doing micro ever again.

So, with that said, im looking for a cpu that will allow me to do some epic duel monitor gaming, And i would like to crossfire/sli later on with a motherboard that has alot of room.

If anyone can post up some ideas, i'll take a look at them.

And if youre still lurking, post up your suggusted rig build for me? and ill see what i can do.

Thank you guys.

Here's what I can come up with.....
Asus P8Z68 Pro
i5 2500k
2 of these sticks of RAM (this is not a kit, you have to buy 2 seperate at amazon)
Rosewill 530w PSU

This is just a few things to get you started. PIck a nice 23" 1080p panel, a nice keyboard and mouse, and your hard drives obviously that you want. Use whatever is left for the GPU. There should be at the very LEAST $200 left for the GPU, which you can pick up a 6970 off geeks.com brand new for $199.99.

I'll take another look again in the morning. I'm headed to bed right now, so I do apologize for not seeing the build all the way through. I'm positive we can build you high end performance for your budget.
Edited by pioneerisloud - 8/20/12 at 1:57am
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post #16 of 71
it just comes down to what a persons diffention of mediocre is. For me a 8150 that is in the same ball park as a I5 2500 for less money is woth it to me the fact that I get up to 110 FPS instead of 125 FPS but that is my owen personal feelings and I stress this this is how I feel I dont see as being inferior
post #17 of 71
well SLI and Crossfire is really the samething just called 2 diffrent things by 2 diffrent manufactures ATI calls running 2 gpus as 1 Crossfire where Nivia calls running 2 as 1 SLI and if this is what your looking for diffently go with a Intel for you and your level of exprice you will be happy with a Intel build
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it just comes down to what a persons diffention of mediocre is. For me a 8150 that is in the same ball park as a I5 2500 for less money is woth it to me the fact that I get up to 110 FPS instead of 125 FPS but that is my owen personal feelings and I stress this this is how I feel I dont see as being inferior

That is very true, however I would like for you to look at the entire platform cost difference. Cheapest good quality AMD board I can find is the M5A99X Evo refurbished for $64.99. So yes, its similar in price. But that $20 or so difference can really save a lot in power savings, and upgrade costs in the future.
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post #19 of 71
power savings????? so a 850 watt psu cost more to run over a 600watt?
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What logic are you referring to? Trying to help him pick the best performing parts he can afford within his budget?
There's nothing at all wrong with AMD, or Bulldozer. But face it, Sandy Bridge is faster, especially at gaming, and even more so when you start getting into higher end setups. Why limit his options right out of the gate with something inferior?
If he already had a good and solid AMD board, I'd tell him right now to go get an FX6100 or 8120. But that's not the case, he wants a full build. So why not offer him the best he can afford, rather than mediocre but workable?
Here's what I can come up with.....
Asus P8Z68 Pro
i5 2500k
2 of these sticks of RAM (this is not a kit, you have to buy 2 seperate at amazon)
Rosewill 530w PSU
This is just a few things to get you started. PIck a nice 23" 1080p panel, a nice keyboard and mouse, and your hard drives obviously that you want. Use whatever is left for the GPU. There should be at the very LEAST $200 left for the GPU, which you can pick up a 6970 off geeks.com brand new for $199.99.
I'll take another look again in the morning. I'm headed to bed right now, so I do apologize for not seeing the build all the way through. I'm positive we can build you high end performance for your budget.
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post

What logic are you referring to? Trying to help him pick the best performing parts he can afford within his budget?
There's nothing at all wrong with AMD, or Bulldozer. But face it, Sandy Bridge is faster, especially at gaming, and even more so when you start getting into higher end setups. Why limit his options right out of the gate with something inferior?
If he already had a good and solid AMD board, I'd tell him right now to go get an FX6100 or 8120. But that's not the case, he wants a full build. So why not offer him the best he can afford, rather than mediocre but workable?
Here's what I can come up with.....
Asus P8Z68 Pro
i5 2500k
2 of these sticks of RAM (this is not a kit, you have to buy 2 seperate at amazon)
Rosewill 530w PSU
This is just a few things to get you started. PIck a nice 23" 1080p panel, a nice keyboard and mouse, and your hard drives obviously that you want. Use whatever is left for the GPU. There should be at the very LEAST $200 left for the GPU, which you can pick up a 6970 off geeks.com brand new for $199.99.
I'll take another look again in the morning. I'm headed to bed right now, so I do apologize for not seeing the build all the way through. I'm positive we can build you high end performance for your budget.

I'll take a look at this right now. I already have a 23 inch 1080p monitor from acer. I love this thing.

Oh, i just found this.
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=CP-G880&cpc=RESX

That 880w power supply looks great. I love the blue LED, what do you think? for 32 dollars, is that worth getting over the PSU you posted up?

And that ASUS motherboard is a steal! i have to get intel now.
Edited by Indiegreg - 8/20/12 at 2:55am
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