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I don't really know about previous amd platforms. I have always owned intel. I now have fx8120 on the sabertooth 990fx and I love it. I suppose a lot is to do with what you use it for. I don't play any old core intense games. I play bf3 and cod and looking forward to modern warfighter so my fx8120 with my gpu performs very well. this cpu has been my first adventure with overclocking hence my joining ocn and its been nothing less than a great experience. At some point I may try another intel now I am really into the oc side of things but for now I am very happy with my cpu,gpu,mobo configuration and never experience anything like the poor performance that is widely reported. im not really tied by budget and didn't buy amd because it was cheaper. after reading all the negative stuff I made a decision to try it out. I am now becoming a performance enthusiast because of my involvement on this site and the vast pool of peoples knowledge and would have no issue buying an intel rig should I get to the point that my system is not performing. this forum is a wide knowledge base for learners like me. There is another site like this in the uk that I flatly refuse to contribute to as its so completely biased. on here I generally find a much more balanced community.

Pretty much sums it up for what happened to myself. The site back home in Australia is biased.. The other one is just not as good/friendly, and the fact that you can't use "Free emails" to register is rubbish.
I like the layout of these forums the best out of all the ones I've used (I've been on a few in my time.)

I feel like that coming here you get the best views from the biggest audience possible, which is a great thing for the most part! The only letdown is that trading and such is very limited, after being here for almost a year I've only bought one thing and sold one thing (which is still shipping I believe!)
 
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post #32 of 71
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Hm, alot of people have alot of opinions of AMD and Intel.

Here is my say in it.

Im running and AMD Phenom II 965 Black Edition. I bought this 8 months ago. Its doing well so far, 4 cores and not yet overclocked.
I did HOURS of research over a span of 3 weeks, deciding either more cores would be better for me, or or not. Ive read, and watched, that having more cores like the 1xxx models for the AMD 6 core series was okay, but lacked the power of 4 core phenom. (Like having a souped up 4 cylider engine over a regualr 6 cylider engine) So, i decided on the power of the 4 core. Intel at the time was way out of my budget.

Now, i have more of a budget, and im thinking about intel. and if intels the case, than this computer build im useing right now, im just going to give to a friend who really needs it. (one armed gamer, hes really good too!) But anyways,now im wondering:

Do i NEED an intel i5 2500k over my Phenom II 965? Please keep in mind the the 300 dollar difference, and if the phenom II has enough power for gaming.
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Hm, alot of people have alot of opinions of AMD and Intel.
Here is my say in it.
Im running and AMD Phenom II 965 Black Edition. I bought this 8 months ago. Its doing well so far, 4 cores and not yet overclocked.
I did HOURS of research over a span of 3 weeks, deciding either more cores would be better for me, or or not. Ive read, and watched, that having more cores like the 1xxx models for the AMD 6 core series was okay, but lacked the power of 4 core phenom. (Like having a souped up 4 cylider engine over a regualr 6 cylider engine) So, i decided on the power of the 4 core. Intel at the time was way out of my budget.
Now, i have more of a budget, and im thinking about intel. and if intels the case, than this computer build im useing right now, im just going to give to a friend who really needs it. (one armed gamer, hes really good too!) But anyways,now im wondering:
Do i NEED an intel i5 2500k over my Phenom II 965? Please keep in mind the the 300 dollar difference, and if the phenom II has enough power for gaming.

wholly depends on the games you play I would suggest and the the gpu. I don't know about phenom performance, only bulldozer ant the i5 performance is widelt reported. Gpu dependant games require gpu power and cpu/cpu. Its all relative to the use. maybe a phenom owner can suggest, maybe a good overclock and a gpu would be better. Im sure someone with knowledge of that cpu will advise on this thread
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when you start getting over 2 monitors and wanting to run 2 high end gpu's you are going to have to look at Intel AMD will run 2 gpu's but at the cost of a lack of FPS and the game not running smoth As you have stated your goal is this kind of rig it makes sence to start building this kind of rig
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I'll always suggest the better CPU for the job. Gaming builds favor intel right now. Suggesting less performance for brand preference is ridiculous, and trying to "save" a company is not any of our responsibility. The responsible thing to do, is advise on the best hardware for the money for the intended application. Sometimes that will be AMD, sometimes that will be Intel. In rigs with priority shifted on GAMING there are real world benefits to the higher per core performance on the blue side right now. For productivity applications, FX CPUs are highly competitive in their price class when multi-tasking is taken into consideration.

I get so sick of watching people make the right suggestion, then get accused of crossing some sacred line. Like a "request for a brand name" somehow locks the deal before any considerations are even taken into account. I can go post AMD builds on the intel side all day and won't get a lick of trouble from anyone about it as long as I have posted a build that is a good value for the intended application of the machine.

"Hi I need an AMD gaming rig" is like, 50% of the threads over here, and 90% of the folks who start those threads, are requesting an AMD build under false pretences and old information. Are we supposed to just stand idle by and let those misconceptions go unchecked? Or do what's best for the consumer? The whole POINT of a forum is to try to bring the knowledge level UP. I actually get the feeling, like these AMD fanboys would rather sell the AMD rig under false pretences.

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I'll always suggest the better CPU for the job. Gaming builds favor intel right now. Suggesting less performance for brand preference is ridiculous, and trying to "save" a company is not any of our responsibility. The responsible thing to do, is advise on the best hardware for the money for the intended application. Sometimes that will be AMD, sometimes that will be Intel. In rigs with priority shifted on GAMING there are real world benefits to the higher per core performance on the blue side right now. For productivity applications, FX CPUs are highly competitive in their price class when multi-tasking is taken into consideration.
I get so sick of watching people make the right suggestion, then get accused of crossing some sacred line. Like a "request for a brand name" somehow locks the deal before any considerations are even taken into account. I can go post AMD builds on the intel side all day and won't get a lick of trouble from anyone about it as long as I have posted a build that is a good value for the intended application of the machine.
"Hi I need an AMD gaming rig" is like, 50% of the threads over here, and 90% of the folks who start those threads, are requesting an AMD build under false pretences and old information. Are we supposed to just stand idle by and let those misconceptions go unchecked? Or do what's best for the consumer? The whole POINT of a forum is to try to bring the knowledge level UP. I actually get the feeling, like these AMD fanboys would rather sell the AMD rig under false pretences.
Regards,
Eric

I don't think anyone suggests an amd build in "spec me a rig threads". And I don't agree with amd fanboyism either when a poster/thread starter asks for an amd build. Although I agree with a real lot of what you say regards rig building the point I constantly raise reference to is the fact that knowledgeable people such as yourself can not just address the op question, ie "build me an amd rig". By instantly suggesting an intel build is to assume that the poster/forum member is of no knowledge of the current cpu climate. I just think that's arrogance, and im not being disrespectful, just an opinion. We shouldn't treat all "build me an amd rig" posters/thread starters as being the great un-informed. I made a conscious informed decision to by amd as did many users of this forum. I don't really care about what the other cpus are like. im not tied by budget and if wanted an intel system would simply buy one. personal choice.

had to laugh!!! I would suggest amd build in an intel thread . That is a moot point. for you would never suggest an amd build in an intel thread and if you did there would be a lot harsher discussion than being had here. other than that great input as usual +1 for rep eric

Thanks
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Bump, and I will return to this thread in a few minutes to spec out a full build. OP, what do you have currently that you will be re using? Please have specific part numbers.
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Honestly, i think i am going to build a whole new computer from scratch. The only think i'll really be using my my Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse, WD 500 GB external harddrive, and maybe the 5400 RPM 250 GB hard drive. A HP dvd640 litescribe, and a CD ROM as well.

EDIT:

And maybe my Biostar 880g+ Micro ATX motherboard and AMD phenom II 965 BE
Edited by Indiegreg - 8/20/12 at 2:45pm
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Honestly, i think i am going to build a whole new computer from scratch. The only think i'll really be using my my Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse, WD 500 GB external harddrive, and maybe the 5400 RPM 250 GB hard drive. A HP dvd640 litescribe, and a CD ROM as well.

are you still wanting to buy an amd cpu? or after reading informed posts changed your mind. If you are wavering between the two ask these great rig builders to build you two systems of comparative value. When you have all the information at hand you will be able to make a more informed choice. there are some great rig builders on this forum. use there knowledge and expertise
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Im deffiantly going to build an i5 2500k rig
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