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Just for reference and knowledge truckerguy is a 4+1 vrm phase board acceptable for an overclocked phenom?? From experience with the bulldozer the 4+1 phase on an asrock extreme 3 990fx was next to to useless for overclocking the fx8 series chip where its fine for the fx4170 I also own at stock.


Thanks
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Thier is alot of diffrent 4+1 phases board of diffrent quality and difrent chip sets and you can see this in the TDP ratting on the socket and if the VRM's have a heat sink or are pasive cooling thier are some 4+1 boards that have a 95Watt TDP not a good board to over clock a 125 watt cpu but its good with a 65 watt cpu as with anythig you can't just look at the fact that its a 4 + 1 board
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($114.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($41.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($164.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill 530W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $607.88
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-20 15:08 EDT-0400)
A little over but a a good build.
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Thier is alot of diffrent 4+1 phases board of diffrent quality and difrent chip sets and you can see this in the TDP ratting on the socket and if the VRM's have a heat sink or are pasive cooling thier are some 4+1 boards that have a 95Watt TDP not a good board to over clock a 125 watt cpu but its good with a 65 watt cpu as with anythig you can't just look at the fact that its a 4 + 1 board

ok great thanks for that
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Also, where I work, they have an i5 2400 on their shelves, but they never ordered/requested one. So, hopefully they'll give an employee a deal.
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Also, where I work, they have an i5 2400 on their shelves, but they never ordered/requested one. So, hopefully they'll give an employee a deal.

You could go for that too
Depending if you do want to overclock though, I would just save the money for a i5 2500K/3570K and just stick with the i3 as that is great for budget gaming.
When you can use that money for the 2400 and get a 2500K or a plain 2700, I believe they were around the same price.
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post #27 of 61
AMD build:

CPU/MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1027799
Combo works in conjunction with promo code FX0812, $21 savings. I don't suggest cutting corners on the MOBO for an AMD build, they need beefy VRM configurations if you run them hard.

GPU/RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1036896
Combo works in conjunction with promo code HIS4118, $32 savings.

Case/PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1046226
The case you originally wanted, with a great PSU in a combo for dirt cheap. Enjoy.

HD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145533
When something else goes on sale, buy that instead (or buy from somewhere else), this drive is good on account of speed (it's a single platter drive), but seems to have a pretty lousy reliability record. I'm just including it as a place-holder for the price in the build.

ODD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244

That's $675 shipped, has an FX CPU, a board with a little room to OC it, and an HD7870. For GPU bound games this build will manhandle high settings on the latest titles.


Intel Build:

CPU/ODD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1025050
Combo savings.

GPU/RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1036786
Same GPU as above, paired with less expensive memory, again, use the promo code on the GPU with the combo discount.

Case/PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1046238
This is the combo with the 430W unit instead, which is technically plenty of power for this build, especially beings that it's an intel build, so the CPU will use less anyway.

MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157314
I usually like to stick to suggesting regular "ATX" size mobos whenever possible, though there are a handful of less expensive micro boards worth conidering if you absolutely need to cut the cost.

HD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145533
Refer to my prior comment on this.

$683 shipped.



The Intel build would be slightly better in gaming unless you can get that FX chip cranking along well over 4GHZ, which would probably require an investment in an after-market cooler, which would tilt the cost of the AMD build higher than the intel build.

Regards,
Eric
Edited by mdocod - 8/20/12 at 6:02pm
     
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post #28 of 61
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nevermind

odd post!!! this thread "best buy for 600$total" is your area of expertise and I suggest a build spec from you would be most valued and welcomed. I would love to suggest builds on this forum but as your shopping in usa would be irrelative.
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($114.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($41.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($164.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill 530W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $607.88
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-20 15:08 EDT-0400)
A little over but a a good build.

looks like a very solid build.
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... even the charts that where posted show this the 965 outperformes the I3 the chart shows this and gives you the option of over clocking the I3 you can't OC it its locked dose AMD cost a little more to overclock yes but when you want to out performe it costs more no mater if you go Intel or AMD

In the charts posted above by MisterFred (thank you BTW), the Deneb/Thuban CPUs have to be clocked to ~4GHZ, and the FX chips have to be clocked to ~4.5GHZ, in order for them to perform in the same class as various STOCK CLOCKED Intel chips. In truckerguy's statement above, the implication would be that the 965 outperforms the i3 BEFORE OCing. This is incorrect. In SC2, AMD chips require OCing to perform on par with the G series Pentium CPUs. In JC2, those same OCs are required to match the performance of the i3-2100. Finally, in Skyrim, A deneb OCed to 4GHZ bests an i3-2100 by 8%. The cost of implementing a Deneb with a long term stable OC at 4GHZ is higher than that of simply using an i3-2120 instead, which would close that performance gap and have a lower long term operating cost.

AMD builds are less cost effective for builds that are focused on gaming performance at this time. Yes, I intend this to read as a blanket statement.

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Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
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