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post #1 of 88
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Hello everyone:rolleyes:

I am now planning to get a custom computer for the first time specifically for playing heavy hardware demanding games and possibly light video editing and stuff.
I just cannot decide even after a month and weeks and weeks of looking stuff up.
I basically am in a dillema of wich monitor and GPU('s) to use.
I have asked my friends before sending this but no one knows much about computer hardware.
Here's a summary to make things clear

  • CPU Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
  • CPU cooler Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler
  • Motherboard MSI Z77A-GD65 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
  • Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
  • SSD Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
  • Hard drive Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
  • Video Card
  • Case Corsair 600T (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
  • Power Supply Corsair 850W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
  • Optical drive Sony AD-7261S-0B DVD/CD Writer
  • OS Windows 7 Home Premium
  • Monitor

(feel free to suggest if you know better options for hardware.)

I do want my system to be "future proof", I know theres no such thing but with this I mean I want this build to last for like 5 years or more no problem and able to play games at maximum settings and all other stuff enables to make gaming experience better (games like Crysis, Crysis2, BF3, Skyrim, Hitman absolution, Dark Souls Prepare to die edition and all those heavy demanding games). I do seek to have a good amount of fps in these high resolutions. With high resolutions I mean like 2560x1400/1600 or 1920x1080 + any other graphic or performance enhancing options in the game.
I have about a 3500-5000€ budget for this thing so I can really let myself go but I do not wish to spend money on things you barely see any performance gains. And if the costs do go up to 5000€ I do expect it to be a monster of a computer. I will use a single monitor to play on but want high res. on it.
Please do make sure the cooling is good enough for some serious overclocking and that it lasts for the 5 or more years that I need it.
Please do try to help me fast as I need this computer before the end of the week and I still need to order the pieces from a different country.
I have watched graphs, reviews and all that on every item in my list so I think I'm good there.. If you know better suggest me.

Thank you in advance for the help:thumb:
post #2 of 88
Do yourself a favor and grab a 680 and a ~600 Watt PSU. I woulden't bother with SLI. A 680 should get you by for at least 5 years thumb.gif

I can't help you with the monitor, though. smile.gif
post #3 of 88
Thread Starter 
So a gtx 680 would run a monitor of 1080p or even 1400/1600p? Run heavy games like the one i listed at about 60+fps?
If so what brand should I go with?
As for other people please help me decide picking a single monitor. I'm having a hard time chosing between IPS panels or 120hz panels.
post #4 of 88
Even a GTX 670, which performs within 5% of the GTX 680, will run all games at 1080p on ultra with great fps. At 1440p, it should run fine with high details and AA off.
post #5 of 88
Light video editing?

Switch to an i5 3570k. Same gaming performance, some performance hit in video work

Such an expensive motherboard. Go with an ASRock Z77 Extreme4. Save some money at the cost of 0 performance lost

8GB RAM will be enough.

Get yourself an AX650 or X650 from seasonic. More than capable of SLI and Crossfire
post #6 of 88
My general suggestion. Will give you everything you need and then some with this build, but doesn't include case, cooler, mouse, keyboard, or monitor. These are all more personal items and is up to you but I would say about $50-$100 on a cooler, $200 for a mouse & keyboard, $300 on a nice highend monitor, $150 for a nice full sized case. So add another $750 onto the total and you will have a beast of a gaming machine.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($117.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($209.00 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($499.99 @ CompUSA)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($83.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (64-bit) ($130.20 @ Amazon)
Total: $1489.00 ...................Total w/ above mentioned peripherals: $2239
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-20 14:20 EDT-0400)
Edited by xRehab - 8/20/12 at 11:24am
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OCZ Agility 3 240gb Seagate 3tb None Liquid Fusion 250ml 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
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Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 240gb Seagate 3tb None Liquid Fusion 250ml 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Raystorm MCP35x Black Ice SR1 Cougar 120 
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Primochill UV green Windows 7 Asus 23" Das Keyboard Ultimate 
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post #7 of 88
Thread Starter 
@TinDaDragon
Yeah the motherboard was recommended to me for its good OC capabilities and something with good bio's.
As for RAM I think I might stay 16 gb for the rig, you never know when they bring out heavy games that require it, if not RAM is cheap so no problem for me there.
Price is not a problem here mate. If you still recommend me a different mobo just tell me and also why please.

I was recently looking things up like good and fast ssd performer and people recommended me Crusial m4, yes I asked someone before but I don't want to be reliant on just 1 persons opinion.
Then I was thinking about the case. I like the looks but how is it in airflow and such, good case for that?
Question for power supply. I think the one I have now is good.. I can go lower but does it affect performance? I can also look at it as an investment if I get other custom parts again that uses higher voltage, I won't need a new PSU anymore. I'm trying to be a little bit future proof for ~5+ years of awesome gaming.
The biggest dillema stays the IPS or 120 hz monitor choice and the choice of the GPU.. what resolution would be best for me? Sure GTX 680 looks very very awesome. But there are many brands to chose from and they are not the same I see memory and core clock differs. If I go for a 120hz monitor do I need a second GPU to run heavy games at 120 fps?
Let me know what you guys think.

Also thank you for the fast responses as it's urgent for me to get this stuff very soon.
post #8 of 88
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@TinDaDragon
Yeah the motherboard was recommended to me for its good OC capabilities and something with good bio's.
As for RAM I think I might stay 16 gb for the rig, you never know when they bring out heavy games that require it, if not RAM is cheap so no problem for me there.
Price is not a problem here mate. If you still recommend me a different mobo just tell me and also why please.
I was recently looking things up like good and fast ssd performer and people recommended me Crusial m4, yes I asked someone before but I don't want to be reliant on just 1 persons opinion.
Then I was thinking about the case. I like the looks but how is it in airflow and such, good case for that?
Question for power supply. I think the one I have now is good.. I can go lower but does it affect performance? I can also look at it as an investment if I get other custom parts again that uses higher voltage, I won't need a new PSU anymore. I'm trying to be a little bit future proof for ~5+ years of awesome gaming.
The biggest dillema stays the IPS or 120 hz monitor choice and the choice of the GPU.. what resolution would be best for me? Sure GTX 680 looks very very awesome. But there are many brands to chose from and they are not the same I see memory and core clock differs. If I go for a 120hz monitor do I need a second GPU to run heavy games at 120 fps?
Let me know what you guys think.
Also thank you for the fast responses as it's urgent for me to get this stuff very soon.
I always recommend an EVGA card because they have always been good to me. The 680 will get you by on almost all of your games at super high framerates as long as you dont have AA set too high, though to pull 120fps you may want to SLI.

As for the m4, it is a solid SSD. As long as you stick with crucial, samsung, intel, or OCZ drives you will be fine.

For the PSU, if you want futureproofness then get a 750w to be extra safe. You will be fine on a 600w but if you SLI and start really pushing the overclocks then a 750w would be nice insurance.

edit - this is also the motherboard I like to recommend to people. Great OC, great customer service, and just a great board in general

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128544
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i5 3570K Gigabyte G1 Sniper 3 EVGA 670 FTW Crucial Ballistix 16gb (2 x 8gb) 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 240gb Seagate 3tb None Liquid Fusion 250ml 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Raystorm MCP35x Black Ice SR1 Cougar 120 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Primochill UV green Windows 7 Asus 23" Das Keyboard Ultimate 
PowerCaseAudio
OCZ ZT 750W NZXT Switch 810 Gun Metal  ultrasone pro 750 
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OCZ Agility 3 240gb Seagate 3tb None Liquid Fusion 250ml 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Raystorm MCP35x Black Ice SR1 Cougar 120 
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Primochill UV green Windows 7 Asus 23" Das Keyboard Ultimate 
PowerCaseAudio
OCZ ZT 750W NZXT Switch 810 Gun Metal  ultrasone pro 750 
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post #9 of 88
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@xrehab

Looks like a nice build but may I ask why your recommending me to go lower in processor and stuff?
Is this mobo better than the one I listed?
Ah yes to clear things up I do not need a mouse or keyboard just pc and monitor.
My budget is 3500€ so I can rly go more all out like that.
May I ask why you picked 2x8 does it have any benefits?
Thought my choice was good 4x4 and home version os since home is capped at 16 I don't need more right?
I have to disagree with the HDD you linked though as much as I've seen the bigger you go in TB the more fail rates there is.. Wich is why I went 2x 1tb.
post #10 of 88
Get yourself a 680 or a 7970, maybe a GHz Edition... these kinds will serve you well for some years, and if they start lingering behind, you can always add a second one to the rig.
Monitor? For gaming you want something around 24", and 1080, or maybe 1200 if you're a 16:10 type of guy (:

Here to help,
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