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WD Green is good. Anyway if you need fast read/write performance Seagate's 2TB (I presume you planing usin 2TB drives) 7k drive is good chice http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&safe=off&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&biw=1280&bih=806&q=seagate+2tb&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=5226738400751812310&sa=X&ei=4WQyUPb-C4nEsga02YEI&ved=0CHoQ5Q0wAA Again, 3Gb/s is more than enough.

I have also heard good things about the drive you mentioned. This has cleared up a number of things, and pointed out a blunder on my part. Thanks for your help.
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Hell, find a Bobcat board with the CPU soldered on, see if it supports RAID5 (x4) and use that. Its a storage server, it could run XP for all it matters.

CPU/MB/GPU: Jetway NF81-T56N-LF
Case: LAIN LI
PSU: Seasonic 300w
RAM: Mushkin 2x2GB SODIMM 1066
HDD: WD AV-GP 2TB (x4)
SSD: Crucial V4 32GB (for OS)

The board supports RAID 5, its a ***** to find one that weak that does.
Case has 5 hot-swap bays, so you can change out your RAID drives on the fly.
Extreme low power consumption tongue.gif

At this rate, why not just buy a NAS?
Edited by KyadCK - 8/20/12 at 10:03am
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Hell, find a Bobcat board with the CPU soldered on, see if it supports RAID5 (x4) and use that. Its a storage server, it could run XP for all it matters.
CPU/MB/GPU: Jetway NF81-T56N-LF
Case: LAIN LI
PSU: Seasonic 300w
RAM: Mushkin 2x2GB SODIMM 1066
HDD: WD AV-GP 2TB (x4)
SSD: Crucial V4 32GB (for OS)
The board supports RAID 5, its a ***** to find one that weak that does.
Case has 5 hot-swap bays, so you can change out your RAID drives on the fly.
Extreme low power consumption tongue.gif
At this rate, why not just buy a NAS?

haha I went through that list. It's surprising how cheap you can do this for... That board looks like $#!t but hey, $180 for a board, cpu and gpu is not bad at all...
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haha I went through that list. It's surprising how cheap you can do this for... That board looks like $#!t but hey, $180 for a board, cpu and gpu is not bad at all...

You can get better for $74 (E-350, board, and GPU), but the only embeded APU with RAID 5 is the Hudson E1 chipset... and all those cheap ones are Hudson D1.
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I am not normally fond of onboard RAID solutions, and it is normally better to use a card Like this one

Here is a quick build, The NZXT source is a great budget case for storage servers since it has 8 bays. If you are planning on adding more HDDs later, I would suggest going with 3TB drives instead of 2 TB drives, about the same $/GB, I think they are a little better for $/GB. Server Build (Click to show)
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I am not normally fond of onboard RAID solutions, and it is normally better to use a card Like this one
Here is a quick build, The NZXT source is a great budget case for storage servers since it has 8 bays. If you are planning on adding more HDDs later, I would suggest going with 3TB drives instead of 2 TB drives, about the same $/GB, I think they are a little better for $/GB. Server Build (Click to show)

I've also heard mixed reviews of on-board RAID solutions. However, the RAID controllers you can buy from the egg or anywhere else have pretty mixed reviews as well (unless they are upwards of $500. I'll check into them, as well as the 3TB drives. I don't really need the 3TB drives as this would give me around 9TB of usable storage space, which is much more than I need at this point.

Thanks for the links, I'll look into some separate RAID cards. Cheers.
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I am not normally fond of onboard RAID solutions, and it is normally better to use a card Like

That is still a host-based RAID controller. While it will allows you to physically move the controller. Motherboard compatibility may be an issue and reduce the migration benefit. Another issue is less driver support.

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I've also heard mixed reviews of on-board RAID solutions. However, the RAID controllers you can buy from the egg or anywhere else have pretty mixed reviews as well (unless they are upwards of $500. I'll check into them, as well as the 3TB drives. I don't really need the 3TB drives as this would give me around 9TB of usable storage space, which is much more than I need at this point.
Thanks for the links, I'll look into some separate RAID cards. Cheers.
There are three types of RAID controllers:
1) Software: RAID is created within the OS either by the OS itself or 3rd party application
2) Host-based (aka Firmware RAID, FakeRAID): onboard or add-in cards that utilize the host system's CPU/memory
3) Hardware: add-in cards that have their own CPU/memory.
Edited by DuckieHo - 8/21/12 at 8:03am
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There are three types of RAID controllers:
1) Software: RAID is created within the OS either by the OS itself or 3rd party application
2) Host-based (aka Firmware RAID, FakeRAID): onboard or add-in cards that utilize the host system's CPU/memory
3) Hardware: add-in cards that have their own CPU/memory.

I have read that software RAID is generally pretty rubish... Do you have an opinion on this, or which of the 3 would you recommend?
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I have read that software RAID is generally pretty rubish... Do you have an opinion on this, or which of the 3 would you recommend?

Software RAID is not rubbish..... unRAID, RAID-Z, RAID1, etc.


As with all server recommendations, implementation is dependent on requirements. There are many ways to accomplish a generic goal. The best way depends on what you need and can afford.
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Software RAID is not rubbish..... unRAID, RAID-Z, RAID1, etc.
As with all server recommendations, implementation is dependent on requirements. There are many ways to accomplish a generic goal. The best way depends on what you need and can afford.

It is rubbish, because if you lose the OS for any reason, you lose the RAID, putting all your drives on a single point of failure. Sorta negates the whole point, doesn't it? Plus it is easily the slowest of all 3, requiring even more CPU power then FakeRAID.

Software RAID is one of those things you never ever touch, be it in personal use or enterprise.

Anyway, you can get a PERC 5/i for $150 online, or a PERC 6/i for a little more. These are real RAID cards. You'll need SAS -> SATA cables to go with it.

If you do go the way of the RAID card, then ditch that awful Jetway I linked and go for something else, like this Asus, or this ASRock. Aaaand the appropriate ram to go with it... some cheap 2x2GB 1333 stuff.
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