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post #21 of 29
8/21/12 at 8:43am
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The power phase on that board is not sufficient for 125w tdp chips even though its advertised as is. I replaced it immediately with the sabertooth fx but I will say in its defence its now running my wifes fx4170 at stock with no issue and I ocd it upto 4.4 within temp limits of the vrm but only just. It definitely would not be able to take a higher oc even on the fx4170. To oc the fx8120 the max was 3.8ghz, next to useless. Don't feel like a noob, the board advertises its capabilities for oc and for the fx series and for cpu up to 140w, this is simply not true. The asrock extreme 4 is the mobo with the capable vrm power phase



It's rated for 140w, and from what i can tell, the issue the op is having is not even related to vrm anymore.
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8/21/12 at 2:35pm
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alright this is it, after all the messing around and resetting everything to stock even with the newest bios this board is still running my CPU to hot. Also i noticed that when i opened the case the board was so hot that i had to wait to get my CPU out of it. Im beyond angry at this thing....i have sent an email to Asrock and im awaiting a repsonse to see if there is anything that can be done on their end. I dont think ill be going with Asrock anytime soon for future boards. I am greatly disappointed by this...

I cant even believe how hot the board itself is...like putting it in an oven and I have NEVER had any heat issues with any other board. Well I guess its live and learn...time to look into something new :/

thanks for all the help everyone, i do appreciate it. Anyone think about suggesting me a good board that would work with my current chip as well as the new PD's when they hit? Doesnt have to be an FX (although i am still considering getting two more graphics cards down the road for some crossfire fun) but i just want something that works....
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post #23 of 29
8/21/12 at 5:31pm
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have you tried resetting the bios settings? maybe the bios settings are configured out by any chances giving you a higher voltage for your cpu?
edit: or you can manually change your core voltage to 1.2V. my thuban 1055t runs on 1.2V under load without no issues keeping my cpu a little cooler. i believe thubans were configured to run ~1.4V at stock.

Stock voltage is 1.300v, 1.425v is AMD Turbo and not "stock" as it doesn't run there constantly.
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8/21/12 at 5:50pm
ooh. thanks. im not quite sure whats the stock voltage of thubans thats why i have posted ~1.4V.
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Stock voltage is 1.300v, 1.425v is AMD Turbo and not "stock" as it doesn't run there constantly.
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8/21/12 at 5:59pm
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ooh. thanks. im not quite sure whats the stock voltage of thubans thats why i have posted ~1.4V.

It is sort of annoying that Thuban defaults to 1.425v though, hah. Disabling turbo puts it back to 1.300. I believe the CPUNB default is 1.150v, and OP, have you tried resetting the BIOS and disabling AMD Turbo? Turbo generally adds a lot of unneeded heat, as you can get better consistent performance with much less than 1.425v (generally!).
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post #26 of 29
8/21/12 at 9:17pm
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alright this is it, after all the messing around and resetting everything to stock even with the newest bios this board is still running my CPU to hot. Also i noticed that when i opened the case the board was so hot that i had to wait to get my CPU out of it. Im beyond angry at this thing....i have sent an email to Asrock and im awaiting a repsonse to see if there is anything that can be done on their end. I dont think ill be going with Asrock anytime soon for future boards. I am greatly disappointed by this...
I cant even believe how hot the board itself is...like putting it in an oven and I have NEVER had any heat issues with any other board. Well I guess its live and learn...time to look into something new :/
thanks for all the help everyone, i do appreciate it. Anyone think about suggesting me a good board that would work with my current chip as well as the new PD's when they hit? Doesnt have to be an FX (although i am still considering getting two more graphics cards down the road for some crossfire fun) but i just want something that works....

why blame them fora users error. i'm just convinced it's their fault. one if the ehat sink that came with the cpu is any thing like amd supplied with phenom 2 quads all i can say is get something way better if your gonna oc and if your not gonna oc you still need a better cooler.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

One thing i didn't see skimming through the thread was discussion of you're case fans. all to often we have people come in to the shop complain their pc is hot.
Well gee little billy you have 18 case fans. Let me tell you a secret more fan's doesn't mean cooler it can actually mean hotter

Now you're case The NZXT phantom isn't too bad it doesn't have too many but, it does have a few flaws the top and back fan are RIGHT next to each other but, i can see they did that becasue the big fan is SUPPOSED to create positive pressure. it is a design in theory that works, the haf 932 does pretty well wit it. How ever not that's not always the case so i'd be looking case fans.

another thing i would be looking at is the how much thermal paste you used.



if the air is getting exhausted and and the heat sink is making proper contact with good pressure and there is correct amount tim and it is still running hot and the bios setting are all default that pretty much leaves you with a faulty CPU.
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8/22/12 at 11:52am
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why blame them fora users error. i'm just convinced it's their fault. one if the ehat sink that came with the cpu is any thing like amd supplied with phenom 2 quads all i can say is get something way better if your gonna oc and if your not gonna oc you still need a better cooler.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134
One thing i didn't see skimming through the thread was discussion of you're case fans. all to often we have people come in to the shop complain their pc is hot.
Well gee little billy you have 18 case fans. Let me tell you a secret more fan's doesn't mean cooler it can actually mean hotter
Now you're case The NZXT phantom isn't too bad it doesn't have too many but, it does have a few flaws the top and back fan are RIGHT next to each other but, i can see they did that becasue the big fan is SUPPOSED to create positive pressure. it is a design in theory that works, the haf 932 does pretty well wit it. How ever not that's not always the case so i'd be looking case fans.
another thing i would be looking at is the how much thermal paste you used.

if the air is getting exhausted and and the heat sink is making proper contact with good pressure and there is correct amount tim and it is still running hot and the bios setting are all default that pretty much leaves you with a faulty CPU.

user error? I have never had any issues with the stock AMD fan....the processor didnt get above 40 in my old asus board, and your telling me that the fan is the reason? thats its user error? This board is hot to the touch, I actually burnt my finger trying to get the heat sink off. I put more then enough thermal paste on the processor (i replaced it three times just to make sure) and I have never had heating issues before until i switched to this board...so im positive its not "user error". The board needs to be sent back and hopefully they will help me replace it or get something that will work better.
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8/22/12 at 12:37pm
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Read my previous post..and links..
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er..the top 2 are 8-phase..Check back..actually that 88-evo looks pretty good.
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8/25/12 at 12:36pm
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user error? I have never had any issues with the stock AMD fan....the processor didnt get above 40 in my old asus board, and your telling me that the fan is the reason? thats its user error? This board is hot to the touch, I actually burnt my finger trying to get the heat sink off. I put more then enough thermal paste on the processor (i replaced it three times just to make sure) and I have never had heating issues before until i switched to this board...so im positive its not "user error". The board needs to be sent back and hopefully they will help me replace it or get something that will work better.

Maybe i was quick to judge. These things usually go for more than 3 pages before Brand names get trash talked. I've done 3 builds 2 with 990 extreme 4's and 1 with an 990 extreme 3 and have never had any problems. I think it is either too much cpu for 4+1 VRMs in which case did you know about VRMs? In which case if you didn't then that could mean this is still stuff to you (amd side). OR You just got unlucky and got a defective board.

Sure didn't mean to make you so mad.

That said i didn't say the fan i said the heat sink, they are pretty rinky dink cheap heat sinks with the exception of the heat pipe version which does alright with dual cores. Yes I understand you had okay temps before, yes it did it's job they just aren't top quality or even really medium quality they are just a chunk of aluminum.

I hope you get a better replacement. Again so to get you worked up.
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Read my previous post..and links..
Umm..If you don't mind used: here: http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?cat=1220
er..the top 2 are 8-phase..Check back..actually that 88-evo looks pretty good.

If the VRMs are soo hot it's heating the board up you potentially have a safety problem/hazard. Also usually these things play out more than 3 pages before people start trash talking a certain brand. The best i can think of is you gota defective board which happens or it is way to much cpu for 4+1. out of the two 900 extreme 4s i have never had any problems.
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