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I'm assuming you mean how much performance does SMAA (the AA used in SweetFX) take vs MSAA? Well the performance hit is noticeably lower than MSAA even with a couple of shader effects enabled.

#define SMAA_THRESHOLD 0.05 // [0.05 to 0.20] Edge detection threshold
#define SMAA_MAX_SEARCH_STEPS 64 // [0 to 98] Determines the radius SMAA will search for aliased edges
#define SMAA_MAX_SEARCH_STEPS_DIAG 16 // [0 to 16] Determines the radius SMAA will search for diagonal aliased edges
#define SMAA_CORNER_ROUNDING 24 // [0 to 100] Determines the percent of antialiasing to apply to corners.

Is what i have set right now, Would increasing any of those make the edges less jaggy? They are still jaggy and i can't turn on MSAA without taking another huge hit.
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#define SMAA_THRESHOLD 0.05 // [0.05 to 0.20] Edge detection threshold
#define SMAA_MAX_SEARCH_STEPS 64 // [0 to 98] Determines the radius SMAA will search for aliased edges
#define SMAA_MAX_SEARCH_STEPS_DIAG 16 // [0 to 16] Determines the radius SMAA will search for diagonal aliased edges
#define SMAA_CORNER_ROUNDING 24 // [0 to 100] Determines the percent of antialiasing to apply to corners.

Is what i have set right now, Would increasing any of those make the edges less jaggy? They are still jaggy and i can't turn on MSAA without taking another huge hit.

 

Those are essentially Ultra+ SMAA settings. If you have LumaSharpen enabled, disable it (#define USE_LUMASHARPEN   0). It's known to bring some of the jaggies back.

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Those are essentially Ultra+ SMAA settings. If you have LumaSharpen enabled, disable it (#define USE_LUMASHARPEN   0). It's known to bring some of the jaggies back.

I agree. I forgot about that... specially with my settings you're using. I use a fairly high sharpen amount (like 1.0 or 1.2 I think). Try putting it down to .60 or disable it all together.
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Those are essentially Ultra+ SMAA settings. If you have LumaSharpen enabled, disable it (#define USE_LUMASHARPEN   0). It's known to bring some of the jaggies back.

Thanks /grr i cant rep you


EDIT: "Also sharpens the antialiased edges" What does it mean by that? When i think of sharp with AA i think straight but its being jaggy?
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SMAA injectors are limited to 1xSMAA, so no matter how high you turn up those settings, it still has a fairly low impact in modern games. Still better than nothing and there's no harm in using it.
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Thanks /grr i cant rep you


EDIT: "Also sharpens the antialiased edges" What does it mean by that? When i think of sharp with AA i think straight but its being jaggy?

 

In essence, SMAA smooths any edges it detects and LumaSharpen sharpens the entire screen (including the edges that SMAA had previously been applied to). Unless an edge is completely vertical or horizontal, it's going to look more jagged/aliased when it's sharpened.

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It's generally considered not a good idea to sharpen games with already poor aliasing UNLESS you can remove it with proper AA.

A great example of a game you can apply a ton of sharpening to is Borderlands 2 after applying 4xSGSSAA. A few examples:









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Those are some pretty amazing screenshots! thumb.gif

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I have updated to the Catalyst 12.11 beta driver, now all the games with SweetFX will crash. Is there anyway to fix this? Thanks.
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Just got Ragnarok Online 2 installed and the aliasing is terrible. So I downloaded FxaaTool, SweetFX and attempted using nVidia's own tools.

The game CTDs about one-two seconds after launch and I never get in if I use FxaaTool or SweetFX (or if the active profile files are in the game directory). If I use nVidia's configuration tools, the game looks great but I cannot use ANY of the ingame overlays like shadows without getting a blue box taking over half of my screen.

Help?
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