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That's because you never get a good answer. I wish you would have seen the look on my co-worker's (graphic artist, total Mac-fan) face when I showed him how fast my PC at home is at loading and editing in PhotoShop; even more so after I told him it all only cost ~$1,200 versus the $2,300+ Mac Pros he chose for our business. The usual response is "Macs are just much better for graphics/video/music work," yet they can't elaborate and explain what's "much better" about them? How is PhotoShop any different on Mac than it is on Windows?
When you showed him that, shouldve said "Now, let me help you throw that away and unleash true power"

Well, since it wasn't his money, (he simply chose what computers the boss should buy) I didn't really get the opportunity to do that. But I have retrieved a few Macbook Pros and Mac Pros as payment for ~$800 custom PCs, which I later sold for upwards of $1,000 via eBay/Facebook. Those customers are still customers of mine today, and they don't regret the exchange. On my SSD, PhotoShop loads up from a fresh boot in about 3 seconds.
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My bad, I should have clarified the financial success aspect more clearly. Since the topic is about a lawsuit though, and since the legal system costs "money", I assumed the financial aspect would be applied. I'm not sure you're bolstering Google's case much though. Company A clearing a much larger profit margin on 30 products/services vs. Company B earning less on hundreds of products/services. It's not much of a debate that Apple is considered the most successful tech company in the world in the financial/business sector at least. Once again, I'm not a fan of Apple's products personally, but to sit back and ignore the obvious reasons they have been successful is foolish imo.

Google isn't alone though. The thing about Google is that there are hordes of businesses and companies waving the Google flag, some of which are powerhouses; Apple on the other hand, while popular, is mostly isolated. Not to mention they're notorious for holding assets around the globe and hiding profits to mitigate taxes, meaning they probably don't hold favor with any government. If the legal battles come down to a war of attrition Apple will be the one to lose, especially since it's a common aggressor. Also, business valuation doesn't actually speak for the strength or ability of a company. The more things escalate the worse it'll turn out. If Apple had just settled their case with Samsung for a smaller fee or cross-patent license something like this would never have happened. Depending on the outcome of the Samsung trial the "patent war" might experience a snowball effect.
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Well, since it wasn't his money, (he simply chose what computers the boss should buy) I didn't really get the opportunity to do that. But I have retrieved a few Macbook Pros and Mac Pros as payment for ~$800 custom PCs, which I later sold for upwards of $1,000 via eBay/Facebook. Those customers are still customers of mine today, and they don't regret the exchange. On my SSD, PhotoShop loads up from a fresh boot in about 3 seconds.

*whistles* Nice deal for you!

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I just hope there will be live feed from court.
This will have much more watchers than Curiosity landing.
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That's because you never get a good answer. I wish you would have seen the look on my co-worker's (graphic artist, total Mac-fan) face when I showed him how fast my PC at home is at loading and editing in PhotoShop; even more so after I told him it all only cost ~$1,200 versus the $2,300+ Mac Pros he chose for our business. The usual response is "Macs are just much better for graphics/video/music work," yet they can't elaborate and explain what's "much better" about them? How is PhotoShop any different on Mac than it is on Windows? Windows has Sony Vegas, which isn't even available for Mac unless I'm mistaken.

I know right. All the production suits that I know to exist on PC and MAC are hardware bound in terms of performance. The computer with the fastest CPU and most ram will run the software best. In terms of stability I don't think there is much difference either and whether one particular software is slightly more stabile on one depends more on which version got patched the most recently.
    
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That's because you never get a good answer. I wish you would have seen the look on my co-worker's (graphic artist, total Mac-fan) face when I showed him how fast my PC at home is at loading and editing in PhotoShop; even more so after I told him it all only cost ~$1,200 versus the $2,300+ Mac Pros he chose for our business. The usual response is "Macs are just much better for graphics/video/music work," yet they can't elaborate and explain what's "much better" about them? How is PhotoShop any different on Mac than it is on Windows?
When you showed him that, shouldve said "Now, let me help you throw that away and unleash true power"

Well, since it wasn't his money, (he simply chose what computers the boss should buy) I didn't really get the opportunity to do that. But I have retrieved a few Macbook Pros and Mac Pros as payment for ~$800 custom PCs, which I later sold for upwards of $1,000 via eBay/Facebook. Those customers are still customers of mine today, and they don't regret the exchange. On my SSD, PhotoShop loads up from a fresh boot in about 3 seconds.
Wow bad SSD mate. Mine takes less than a second to load my Photoshop.
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Wow bad SSD mate. Mine takes less than a second to load my Photoshop.
There could have been other parts playing into the load time.
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That's because you never get a good answer. I wish you would have seen the look on my co-worker's (graphic artist, total Mac-fan) face when I showed him how fast my PC at home is at loading and editing in PhotoShop; even more so after I told him it all only cost ~$1,200 versus the $2,300+ Mac Pros he chose for our business. The usual response is "Macs are just much better for graphics/video/music work," yet they can't elaborate and explain what's "much better" about them? How is PhotoShop any different on Mac than it is on Windows?
When you showed him that, shouldve said "Now, let me help you throw that away and unleash true power"

Well, since it wasn't his money, (he simply chose what computers the boss should buy) I didn't really get the opportunity to do that. But I have retrieved a few Macbook Pros and Mac Pros as payment for ~$800 custom PCs, which I later sold for upwards of $1,000 via eBay/Facebook. Those customers are still customers of mine today, and they don't regret the exchange. On my SSD, PhotoShop loads up from a fresh boot in about 3 seconds.
Wow bad SSD mate. Mine takes less than a second to load my Photoshop.

On a fresh bootup? If I close PhotoShop and relaunch it, it does take a split second. offtopic.gif No more.
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Google isn't alone though. The thing about Google is that there are hordes of businesses and companies waving the Google flag, some of which are powerhouses; Apple on the other hand, while popular, is mostly isolated. Not to mention they're notorious for holding assets around the globe and hiding profits to mitigate taxes, meaning they probably don't hold favor with any government. If the legal battles come down to a war of attrition Apple will be the one to lose, especially since it's a common aggressor. Also, business valuation doesn't actually speak for the strength or ability of a company. The more things escalate the worse it'll turn out. If Apple had just settled their case with Samsung for a smaller fee or cross-patent license something like this would never have happened. Depending on the outcome of the Samsung trial the "patent war" might experience a snowball effect.

Good point. I would argue that Apple is not as isolated as you may think. They are offering business oriented products/services in many areas that Google are i.e. PoS, cloud based inventory tracking, etc. IPad based PoS systems are huge in the food servicing sector atm (restaurants, fast food or "quick-serve) for example.

I've yet to see any evidence that Apple is out of favor with any governments due to taxes. I agree they may be aggravating the courts with the endless litigation.
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