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Hello! My friend came up to me complaining about how his current MacBook is not satisfying his needs as a video editor. He does a lot of music videos on youtube, weddings, etc. The programs he uses are Adobe After Effects, Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere. The biggest problem he is having is long rendering times in addition to the disadvantages of using a laptop rather than a desktop.

I know how to build computers but since this is someone else's computer and money I want the most help I can get! I am a total noobie at video editing and would love your assistance, especially from all of the pro video makers of OCN! The most important thing I would like to know is, for video editing / making, what do you look for in your parts?

His budget is around $1500-$2000. Although helpful, I am not looking for people to just post parts for a proposed build but rather I would like to know why those parts were chosen smile.gif What is it that makes a desktop for video making?
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Also forgot to mention he makes his own music too!
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Ask him how much he uses Final Cut Pro vs Adobe Premiere. FCP is apple only, and if he relies on it a custom PC may be out of the question. (barring hackintosh)
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First, I'd recommend a Catleap if he edits 1080p videos. Normally, I wouldn't suggest them since they're a gamble but if his videos are 1080p, he will be able to edit them in native resolution while still having space for his tools.

For the CPU, you have many options. A 2600k/3770k would of course do a great job but so would an X79 build but then, you don't have a lot of money. Since most video editing softwares are highly multi-threaded, you could also think about using a Bulldozer CPU since highly multi-threaded are the only places where they can really shine. It's all about how much you spend for the other components and then how much you can spend on the CPU/Motherboard/RAM. I'm recommending these CPUs because the CPU is the main thing you use for rendering and therefore, he'll want a fast CPU.

For rendering, there's another option: CUDA. If the software he uses support it, he could go that way. In that case, he'd rely on GPGPU performance, an area in which Kepler is very bad in its current iteration compared to the GTX 5xx series. You could use a GTX 570/580. If his software is also compatible with Open GL, the HD 79xx from AMD could be an option since they're monsters. I know software like Cyberlink Power Director which I use can accelerate the CPU rendering with CUDA which is very useful. You could also use a Quadro/Firepro but these are pretty much useless if he wants to keep some 3D horsepower.

These are my suggestions for the core of the computer. For the case, power supply, cooler, etc., a rendering build is the same as a gaming computer.
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For the processor, definitely an i7 3770k

This processor features 4 true cores and hyper threading, meaning this CPU has 8 total threads.

It is very good for video editing as many of those programs utilize all the threads the CPU has.

You might ask, Why not an AMD FX-8120/50? The answer lies in the IPC (Instructions per clock). A higher IPC means faster time and quicker processing
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
For RAM, 16GB is minimum for video editing. Most of it will be utilized. He is most likely (should) use RAMDisk to make things quicker.

I recommend 2x8GB sticks as it leaves the CPU less stress.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I recommend the ASRock Z77 Pro4 motherboard. Video editing does not need a multi GPU set up. The Pro4 is perfect and cheap. Look at my signature for a review.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I recommend the Rosewill CAPSTONE series power supply. You will not need more than 500W for the set up.

It is 80+Gold and it delivers a lot of power
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I would choose a GTX660Ti for GPU. Video editing doesn't take that much GPU power, and the 660Ti is perfect for gaming or editing
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I would get one SSD(Solid State Drive) for the OS and programs. It makes everything quicker and overall a better computing experience.

I would get a Samsung 830 256GB or Intel 520 256GB.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
If you prefer air cooling, get the Noctua NH-D14 cooler. It is the best air cooler on the market.

Or if you want liquid cooling, get an H100 from Corsair.
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Originally Posted by Twitchie View Post

Ask him how much he uses Final Cut Pro vs Adobe Premiere. FCP is apple only, and if he relies on it a custom PC may be out of the question. (barring hackintosh)

This is the most important question. A non apple computer will only serve him as he wants if he can afford losing FCP.
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post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by Twitchie View Post

Ask him how much he uses Final Cut Pro vs Adobe Premiere. FCP is apple only, and if he relies on it a custom PC may be out of the question. (barring hackintosh)

He will be switching to Vegas Pro if we get a PC built for him!
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First, I'd recommend a Catleap if he edits 1080p videos. Normally, I wouldn't suggest them since they're a gamble but if his videos are 1080p, he will be able to edit them in native resolution while still having space for his tools.
For the CPU, you have many options. A 2600k/3770k would of course do a great job but so would an X79 build but then, you don't have a lot of money. Since most video editing softwares are highly multi-threaded, you could also think about using a Bulldozer CPU since highly multi-threaded are the only places where they can really shine. It's all about how much you spend for the other components and then how much you can spend on the CPU/Motherboard/RAM. I'm recommending these CPUs because the CPU is the main thing you use for rendering and therefore, he'll want a fast CPU.
For rendering, there's another option: CUDA. If the software he uses support it, he could go that way. In that case, he'd rely on GPGPU performance, an area in which Kepler is very bad in its current iteration compared to the GTX 5xx series. You could use a GTX 570/580. If his software is also compatible with Open GL, the HD 79xx from AMD could be an option since they're monsters. I know software like Cyberlink Power Director which I use can accelerate the CPU rendering with CUDA which is very useful. You could also use a Quadro/Firepro but these are pretty much useless if he wants to keep some 3D horsepower.
These are my suggestions for the core of the computer. For the case, power supply, cooler, etc., a rendering build is the same as a gaming computer.

He does edit in 1080p and the budget does not include peripherals smile.gif Thanks for the great advice!
post #8 of 14
Isn't apple the corp that cooked up opencl?gpgpu is where you find your answer.apple gpgpu solution?sadly idon't know apple stance on that front.
Edited by drbaltazar - 8/21/12 at 12:18pm
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Originally Posted by TinDaDragon View Post

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
For the processor, definitely an i7 3770k
This processor features 4 true cores and hyper threading, meaning this CPU has 8 total threads.
It is very good for video editing as many of those programs utilize all the threads the CPU has.
You might ask, Why not an AMD FX-8120/50? The answer lies in the IPC (Instructions per clock). A higher IPC means faster time and quicker processing
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
For RAM, 16GB is minimum for video editing. Most of it will be utilized. He is most likely (should) use RAMDisk to make things quicker.
I recommend 2x8GB sticks as it leaves the CPU less stress.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I recommend the ASRock Z77 Pro4 motherboard. Video editing does not need a multi GPU set up. The Pro4 is perfect and cheap. Look at my signature for a review.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I recommend the Rosewill CAPSTONE series power supply. You will not need more than 500W for the set up.
It is 80+Gold and it delivers a lot of power
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I would choose a GTX660Ti for GPU. Video editing doesn't take that much GPU power, and the 660Ti is perfect for gaming or editing
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I would get one SSD(Solid State Drive) for the OS and programs. It makes everything quicker and overall a better computing experience.
I would get a Samsung 830 256GB or Intel 520 256GB.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
If you prefer air cooling, get the Noctua NH-D14 cooler. It is the best air cooler on the market.
Or if you want liquid cooling, get an H100 from Corsair.

All this sounds great and less daunting than I thought it would be! I am understanding a bit more of what to look for in parts.
post #10 of 14
Here, I quickly put together this system.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fisK

If it's serious video and music editing/making, making the jump to x79 is only logical. The 6 core/12 threads will help him fly through any rendering he needs done. 16gb of ram is a good amount for editing as well; it is only too easy to run out of available ram when rendering a large file. I also went with 4x4 as opposed to 2x8 because then it'll run in quad-channel and give a bit more memory bandwidth. I went with the Asus x79 Pro just because I'm not familar with x79 mobos but I know the Asus pro models are usually very reliable. Samsung 830 is considered one of the best SSDs on the market right now, and 128 gb should give you enough room for programs needed for editing, and a scratch disk. The 2tb hard drive is just there for storing all the media he makes - add more as he needs, and maybe add redundancy later on. The Rosewill Hive is a great PSU for the price, and you won't need more than 650 w. The 660ti is there because why not, its a great all around card, and I'm leaning towards the nVidia camp right now; switch to a 7870 if he prefers AMD. The Fractal Design R4 is just an option, cases are subjective but its refined, and importantly, a nice quiet case for when he's working. And then I just added in a W7 license.

I also added a Nh-D14 because its quiet and cool, I'm a fan of Noctua, and if he chooses to overclock it'll take him far.
Edited by Twitchie - 8/21/12 at 8:21pm
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