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For decades, a desktop PC purchased for $2000 would be selling for $500 inside of two years. The combination of Moore’s law and Dennard scaling drove microprocessor performance rapidly skyward and companies like Microsoft and Adobe pumped out new products to consume CPU cycles nearly as fast as Intel and AMD could boost them. That ended in 2005, but the arrival of multi-core CPUs, clever scheduling on Intel’s part, and sheer inertia kept the idea current.

PC obsolescence is obsolete

My computer was built almost 4 years ago, with mid-range parts, and I still run the latest games, most of the time with maxed out graphics, just fine. It's too bad we no longer have the huge performance jumps that are must have.
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Originally Posted by Zen00 View Post

PC obsolescence is obsolete
My computer was built almost 4 years ago, with mid-range parts, and I still run the latest games, most of the time with maxed out graphics, just fine. It's too bad we no longer have the huge performance jumps that are must have.
I doubt a 5770 is maxxing games XD Just sayin'
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For gaming, the reason is, of course, consoles. The second reason is MMOs with mass market appeal that need to target low specs. Of course, once the new console wave comes out, anyone with old hardware will be shedding tears until they upgrade.

For everything else, the reason is the web. People don't buy computers to run resource hungry applications any more, the regular user spends the vast majority of computer time in a web browser.

That really just leaves workstations as the only market that really needs regular advances in horsepower.
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your hardware definitely does not become useless quite as quickly anymore... I think its because devs are not willing to push the limit anymore (for most software) and are always trying to cater to the largest audience, instead of trying to make the fastest program they are willing to sacrifice speed for efficiency.
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Very true to a point, i mainly upgrade now a days for huge epeen only
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Originally Posted by General121 View Post

I doubt a 5770 is maxxing games XD Just sayin'

At 800x600! tongue.gif
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post #7 of 142
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Originally Posted by Zen00 View Post

PC obsolescence is obsolete
My computer was built almost 4 years ago, with mid-range parts, and I still run the latest games, most of the time with maxed out graphics, just fine. It's too bad we no longer have the huge performance jumps that are must have.

We still get decent performance jumps from generation to generation, but it is slowing down.....

The real issue over the last few years is software making use of this hardware, especially in gaming. Unfortunately until newer consoles come we aren't going to see anything like Crysis 1 anytime soon. Ie; Games ahead of hardware.....

Another limitation that also adds to the problem is monitors, 1080p is old hat and has been for a long time but 3D Vision is making it stick around longer that it should be. In a nutshell, even the most midrange single GPU can max out most games without breaking a sweat. Until we start seeing 2560x1440/1600p displays @ 120Hz+ it's going to continue to be a quite dull market.
Edited by Mhill2029 - 8/21/12 at 2:21pm
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Doesn't really bother me too much, I'm glad that my CPU isn't considered a paperweight after ~3 years.
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post #9 of 142
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I doubt a 5770 is maxxing games XD Just sayin'

For most consoles ports, yeah tongue.gif

as said, regarding gaming, definitely consoles is the reason for that. Another thing is I guess the market kinda got tired of having to upgrade and change over tech. It must've got annoying to a certain point. Also, while hardware is not pushed, I do believe that software devs (some) are starting to pickup on making the most of the current hardware, rather than just give up and wait for something slightly higher in hardware to compensate.
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True to that thumb.gif I'm still pretty happy with my current build i mean i can still play the latest games with reasonable settings that works for me tongue.gif !!
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